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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | OK, I just bought this critter. Probably arrive next week, for closer inspection. With a lot of 12-strings, you get some neck joint failures. While I am awaiting delivery, anybody got suggestions on repair/reconstruction of the neck joint? I'm wondering if I can clean out the adhesive that's already there, & basically, start over. The rest of the instrument looks pretty good, and the case....well, heck, that was a real bonus!
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Location: Boise, Idaho | If it's stable, wouldn't it be better to fill and smooth it and then add a few coats of clear? My current woodworking project is trying to fill in some holes I drilled on the wrong side of our newly refinished kitchen cabinets. I'd rather work on guitars.
I also got what I thought was a great deal on an old brown case recently in Lewiston, but when I got it home, it doesn't want to close properly with a guitar in it. The case must be sprung somehow, because it closes fine without a guitar in it and has plenty of depth. My guess is somebody sat on it. |
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Maybe your guitar is too fat.
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | The conundrum is, the neck fracture is allegedly the culprit for the high action. We shall see...... and.......your guitar's too fat. Hey, that could become sort of the "drummer's reply", when delivering the punchline to our sparkling repartee around here. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | seesquare - 2015-01-17 2:24 PM
The conundrum is, the neck fracture is allegedly the culprit for the high action.
Aw... You know better than that. 
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Yep. But, I still need to repair that joint. I'm figurin' I will do a bit of bowl-bendin' on this critter. It appears to be old enough, it probably has the hand-laid bowl, & needs a tummy-tuck. My guitar's too fat.
Those are pretty old Kluson machines on the peghead, too. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I have the guitar and case at the office. I'll have to bring them home and see if the Matrix is any fatter than the others. We do tend to put on a few inches as we age. The Matrix is my oldest acoustic. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Supposed to arrive on Friday, from Chicago, per Big Brown estimate. I shall update, thereafter. Let it sit in the box, overnight, to acclimate. Patience, patience, patience............ |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Mark, it just occurred..... the bottom contours on those bowls aren't always the same, so the depth may be OK, but the contour, may not. Jus' a thought. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Mark in Boise - 2015-01-17 11:03 AM
I also got what I thought was a great deal on an old brown case recently in Lewiston, but when I got it home, it doesn't want to close properly with a guitar in it. The case must be sprung somehow, because it closes fine without a guitar in it and has plenty of depth. My guess is somebody sat on it.
Some brown cases are for Artist Bowl guitars.
Way-back-when I had a 1121 and a 1621... they both came with brown cases.
But the 1621 would not fit into the 1121's case, although the cases looked to be the same.
The 1121 would fit into the 1621's case.
You would think that the 1121 and 1621 would be the same depth... but they weren't.
Anyway, one of the brown cases was shallower and would not take a deep bowl.
Now back to fixing the 1115.  |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Thanks, Arthur. I didn't think about that. I'll take it home and compare it with some others. The funny thing is the guitar sits in the case with just a little bit sticking up and there seems to be plenty of space in the lid, but when I go to close it, the latches won't close. I suspect the case is bent so that when I put a guitar in the lid doesn't want to reach all the way across. There are a couple of other hints that the case was sat upon. It's kind of far down on my to do list. The first thing on the list should be to write out a list. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Status update:
The critter has landed. It is in very nice condition, given it's age, & my expectations of an old beater. The neck repair looks solid, though the finish work is left wanting. The case has been repaired. Had to pop-rivet the nose-end hinge, as I was repairing the lid-to-case strap. Stickers were removed, & Mr. Clean Magic Eraser performed the usual miracle on cleaning off the paint streaks, assorted stains & smudges. There is a fissure, between the bridge & soundhole, currently being cleated. Haven't decided whether the 1st-four fretwires are being replaced. I will do some dressing on the existing ones, & see if there's sufficient material to work with. The Kluson tuners are real good- only one comparatively stiff gear, in the entire bunch. Bathed them in lacquer thinner, to clean out the old grease. Will inject some lubricant through the access holes.
I will post some pictures, pretty soon. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Foil label & serial # appears to date to about 1973. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Weather has been crappy, for photography. I will post, later this week. Sweet critter. I put real light strings (.010-to-.050) on it, tuned to "D", with a capo. Testing out the repaired joint, thus far. 12-frets-to-the-body design. I guess, "accept no substitutes". Re-leveled the frets, & it's good-to-go. Tuners work great, & only one shaft is slightly bent. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | So, the latest resurrection (before the Matrix arrives next week). I just smoothed out the reglued joint, so I can tell if it ever comes loose again:
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New challenge, on an old classic- 1115 resurrection
