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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-03 8:54 PM (#72028)
Subject: The Best 12 String


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I have been a 12 string player for 42 years and an Ovation 12 string player for 32. I have owned and played just about every model I can think of and currently own 10 different 12's. Last night we had some friends over and they asked to see and hear some of my guitars. I went through the Ovations: both 6 and 12 and also my wood bodied acoustic guitars. They were impressed with the differences in sound and (in the Ovations) the difference in body depths/construction, etc...The last two guitars I uncased were Adamas (my 1685-8 is at the spa):the #47RI 1187-247 and after initial oohs and ahhs, they were very complimentary on the styling and were also impressed with the construction (graphite/fiberglass bowl/Walnut neck and headstock w/graphite reinforcement), and of course the awesome sound. Then I uncased the 1688-5 and played several songs: one finger style and one using chords over the length of the neck: they were both amazed at the Adamas I 12's beauty, sound, and ability to in their words "make such a musical statement"...These were professional people but not musicians...yet they were struck with the quality that the 1688-5 has. I have consistently gotten that kind of response where ever I have played it! I own many 12 strings and while all are extremely nice in their own respects (the 1758's are my personal favorite wood topped Ovation 12's and the Adamas II 1685-8 comes close), the Adamas I 1688-5 is without a doubt the finest 12 string I have ever owned! I feel so fortunate to own it! It just sings! I would again like to personally thank Jenny for making this possible and of course again Woz for changing my life by letting me play his -8 at the tour...I am a happy guy!
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-03 9:00 PM (#72029 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-12-03 9:59 PM (#72030 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String



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Those are Very Nice guitars Mike. And I am Jealous!

But I am satisfied....



For Now! :rolleyes:

[And that Adamas looks lonely out in that field]
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Beggin
Posted 2007-12-03 10:06 PM (#72031 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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Music, if it sounds anything like my 1685-5 (procured from a minister friend in SW Virginia) then it is indeed one of the finest 12 strings around! ;)
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-12-03 10:26 PM (#72032 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String



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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
[QB] Those are Very Nice guitars Mike. And I am Jealous!

But I am satisfied....
Me Too...

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-12-03 11:31 PM (#72033 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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My very first 12 string guitar was Big Blue (1688- whatever color blue is). I still haven't found anything to compare with it (altho' my rebuilt GC 12 is wonderful in it's own way). They are simply the best....
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-03 11:39 PM (#72034 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String



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...and let us not forget the new kids on the block.

The only 2080-12's in the known universe!

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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-03 11:52 PM (#72035 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
PC LOAD PAPER
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-12-04 2:10 AM (#72036 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String



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Uh... Okay... Is there a joke I'm missing Dave?

[But I think this is the appropriate place to comment Mike and show yer 12's]
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2007-12-04 5:06 AM (#72037 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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Mike, I know what you are talking about. Agreed!



Karl

PS. We know the same chord, great!
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-12-04 6:03 AM (#72038 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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Mike, what happened to all the leaves on you trees?

I'll have to get Beggin to post a picture of my 12, as it is at his house for the time being.

And...Arthur....That 1115 looks really nice! Great job in saving it.
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AussieJames
Posted 2007-12-04 7:22 AM (#72039 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String



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Hey, this is great at least I know what some of you guys look like now! :D
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Beal
Posted 2007-12-04 7:31 AM (#72040 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String



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1688.
nuf said.
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Beggin
Posted 2007-12-04 8:15 AM (#72041 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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Originally posted by Trader Jim:

I'll have to get Beggin to post a picture of my 12, as it is at his house for the time being.

Man, sell a friend a guitar AND store it for him (making you question the sale in the first place) and now he wants pictures......hmmmm.....I may have to search a bit...
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Beggin
Posted 2007-12-04 8:26 AM (#72042 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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Ok Jimbo, best I can do for now...Enjoy. Best playing and sounding woodtop that I have played.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-12-04 8:32 AM (#72043 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String



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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Mike, what happened to all the leaves on you trees?
Jim,

That picture was taken last spring. It was too cold yesterday to be outside in a t-shirt. :D
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-12-04 11:14 AM (#72044 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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Cool responses guys...Ovation/Adamas 12's rock!
:D

Lets not leave out my "new" 2986 '86 Collector 12:


SSB 12: and it is sweet!!!
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MWoody
Posted 2007-12-04 11:44 AM (#72045 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String



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Here is an SS 12 Longneck and his wonder dog Fred



A Post-production Limited Deacon 12 with MKB and MJW
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-12-04 11:55 AM (#72046 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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Hey - speaking of Fred - he hasn't posted in a few weeks. Anyone hear from him?
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brainslag
Posted 2007-12-04 12:39 PM (#72047 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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To those who've played them both: Does the 1688 sound better than the U681T-12, or similar? Should I start looking for an Adamas I 12'er?
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-12-04 12:48 PM (#72048 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String



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Point 1 - Ovation makes the best 12 strings in the business, structurally and sonically. period.
Point 2 - See point 1.
Point 3 - If it's the best Ovation 12 string, it's the best in the knowable universe.
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2007-12-04 12:56 PM (#72049 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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This year I played my 1688 side-by-side with Kurt's U681T-12. They are similar-sounding, but the UTE won by a narrow margin. Maybe due to the 12 frets to the body.



Karl
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-04 1:06 PM (#72050 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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Originally posted by brainslag:
To those who've played them both: Does the 1688 sound better than the U681T-12, or similar? Should I start looking for an Adamas I 12'er?
This is a loaded question. There are a LOT of fans of the 1688 Adamas I 12-string. And they all rightly believe that the A1-12 is the best sounding and playing 12-string out there. I don't necessarily disagree. But not very many of these folks have played and heard it side by side with the U681-12. I and a few others have have that chance. BUT, my own opinion of the U681-12 is also influenced by it's configuration. The fact that it's a 12 fret slothead is a big deal to me, so that might also bias how I "hear" it.

As objectively as I can, here's how I would compare the two:

Unplugged sound: U681 is slightly louder and more crisp. 1688 has a slightly bigger bottom end. Both guitars RUMBLE, and are head and shoulders better than anything else out there (except maybe the AB12's). 1688 maybe has a little more sustain.

Plugged in: U681 gets the nod here with the OP-PRO. But you don't buy guitars like this because of their electronics.

Configuration: Matter of personal choice. If you like 12 fretters, you'll like the U681. If you like carved headstocks you'll like the 1688.

Quality: Both are top notch (but not perfect).

It really comes down to personal preference and to be honest sound and playability is not really a deciding factor between the two. It's the configuration personal preference that swings it for me. And FOR ME, the U681-12 is the finest 12-string I've ever owned.

Dave
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lanaki
Posted 2007-12-04 1:12 PM (#72051 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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and my 1688 has the OP-PRO. best of both worlds.
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brainslag
Posted 2007-12-04 1:20 PM (#72052 - in reply to #72028)
Subject: Re: The Best 12 String


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That's a nice pic!
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