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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-11 12:35 PM (#71008)
Subject: THE OFC ADAMAS SLOTHEAD GUITAR


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Just received word from Al that the carbon fiber cases are now shipping. This pretty much brings to a close the OFC Guitar Project and I thought it would be as good a time as any to post the following ...

Dear Al,

You have made 12 people here very, very happy. Well, you shouldn't count yourself 'cuz you'll never be happy, but you know what I mean. Anyway, I still recall the day that you and I first talked about the OFC Adamas Slothead. It was Dec. 1, 2004. at 12:01am Amsterdamn time. Do you remember? Ironically I am sitting here in Amsterdamn again right now as I write this. How many freaking times did you and I talk about the OFC guitar project over the next 2.5 years?

It's been said here before and I'll say it again, the results of this project are STELLAR. The OFC guitar is the best of the best in nearly every regard. There are some technical reasons that I prefer it over the 47RI, such as the wide neck, electronics, color, etc. But the REAL reason that it will forever be my absolute most cherished Ovation/Adamas guitar is knowing how much care and devotion went into this project by YOU.

I'm not trying to just boost your ego but seriously you DO NOT get this kind of treatment on other guitar forums (although I hear the admins at tak forum are pretty nice), and you CERTAINLY do not get this kind of treatment at any other guitar dealer. Al, you presented a once in a lifetime opportunity and you worked like hell to see it come true. I'm sure I speak for the other lucky ten, when I say from the bottom of our hearts - THANK YOU.

Dave (#8)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-12-11 12:50 PM (#71009 - in reply to #71008)
Subject: Re: THE OFC ADAMAS SLOTHEAD GUITAR


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Jeez but I hate being nice to Al, but abso-fu*kin'-lutely ditto everything Dave said!

Paul (#3)
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-11 1:32 PM (#71010 - in reply to #71008)
Subject: Re: THE OFC ADAMAS SLOTHEAD GUITAR



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We all give Al grief but I cannot possibly imagine all the time and effort he put forth for this project.

Personally, I am looking forward to the "Q" project. :eek:
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-12-11 1:35 PM (#71011 - in reply to #71008)
Subject: Re: THE OFC ADAMAS SLOTHEAD GUITAR


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Ditto, also. I must add, however, that as a late arrival to the OFC guitar parade, I'd like to thank those of you, in addition to Al, that offered your opinions and support for this project and stepped up and agreed to buy one. I came in at the end and read all the old posts. I know that some of you took some delight in driving Al nuts and if Al was really frustrated at times, I deny any responsibility. Thanks for putting up with us, Al, and for working with the factory to produce a really wonderful piece of art that is a true prize.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-12-11 1:53 PM (#71012 - in reply to #71008)
Subject: Re: THE OFC ADAMAS SLOTHEAD GUITAR



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Here, here!

Brad (#5)
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2007-12-11 2:20 PM (#71013 - in reply to #71008)
Subject: Re: THE OFC ADAMAS SLOTHEAD GUITAR



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Same here Al,
THANK YOU for feeding my G.A.S. pains !!!!!
:D :D :D

Tim (#9)
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-12-11 2:23 PM (#71014 - in reply to #71008)
Subject: Re: THE OFC ADAMAS SLOTHEAD GUITAR



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In addition, Al doesn't just work hard on his own creations. He has very effectively pushed, and continues to push, custom guitar orders through the factory on behalf of and to the delight of his clients. Without his knowledge, contacts, assistance and ongoing coordination, there would be a lot more empty cases and guitar hangers out there. I appreciate and can personally vouch for the tag on his signature line "Custom Order Specialist." Thanks much, Al.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-12-11 2:24 PM (#71015 - in reply to #71008)
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Deleted duplicate post.
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-12-11 2:32 PM (#71016 - in reply to #71008)
Subject: Re: THE OFC ADAMAS SLOTHEAD GUITAR



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The little known, soon to be appreiciated hidden gem in the Fender accusition of Kaman is of course.... Al.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-12-11 3:23 PM (#71017 - in reply to #71008)
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Oops.

Mark (the last one #11, only because someone else wanted number 12.)
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stonebobbo
Posted 2007-12-11 3:40 PM (#71018 - in reply to #71008)
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For someone who was "in" early and pestered Al continuously, I really appreciate what went into the project ... and more importantly what came out of the project. It has all been worth the wait.

Many thanks to Al (and the folks at the factory who figured out a way to make this work for us).
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-11 4:43 PM (#71019 - in reply to #71008)
Subject: Re: THE OFC ADAMAS SLOTHEAD GUITAR


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The irony in all this is how I tried to hedge my bets. I wanted a slothead in the worst way, but was pretty dame sure I'd never get my hands on one. And then the Angel-Al drops out of the sky and launches the OFC Guitar project. Well YEAH, my dream come true. But there were some pretty dark days back then and at a certain point I really believed the OFC Guitar project would never happen. So to cover my ass, I grabbed the next best thing, a 47RI. In fact I almost got TWO of them, but was able to extract myself from some shady business dealings with another dealer (which is a whole 'NOTHER story). So I'm a happy 47RI camper. And THEN Al pulls off the Boise State Statue of Liberty play and not only delivered the OFC Guitar as advertised, but does it with a WIDE neck to boot! So I'm a DOUBLE happy camper. Then lightning of all lightning strikes and due to a little flip statement in one of my posts ("My offer still stands", famous last words), bingo one of the original 34 Slotheads ends up in my lap. I was a VERY happpy and VERY light-walleted camper. THEN, I started playing these wooden boxes and the whole player/collector/webmaster/etc. thing just went totally to crap. Oh yeah, and the UKULELES ....

Dave
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2007-12-11 5:02 PM (#71020 - in reply to #71008)
Subject: Re: THE OFC ADAMAS SLOTHEAD GUITAR



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It's not only eleven people to be thankful for what Al has done to get the OFC guitar built.

Don't forget the possibility to order the OFC guitar - out of the limited run and without the goodies - in your favorite colour, neck width (well, in fact two, but that's according to the factory) and other custom wishes... Some already did, and all of these guitars are great.

I never liked the red of the #47, but german supervisor told me, "No chance for another colour", so I bought this red guitar - and I am happy with it. But Al made it possible to get it in my favourite colour, and soon I will be a, what did Dave call it, a happy tramp? No, camper.

BUT: Don't forget what Al had to went through to get those carbon cases! Maybe I am one of the few that has seen it yet in person, and they are GREAT!

So, hurra for the cases! And the guitars!

Thanks Al,

merry christmas,
Kurt
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-12-11 5:09 PM (#71021 - in reply to #71008)
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Kurt, what's your favorite color?
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schroeder
Posted 2007-12-11 5:10 PM (#71022 - in reply to #71008)
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al's really not going to be happy with all this being nice to him. t'ain't natchul.

So to even things out - got the 08 tour date yet al?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-12-11 5:25 PM (#71023 - in reply to #71008)
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Kurt, I may be in Munich next October, or possibly Spring of 2009, depending upon when Porsche opens its new museum in Stuttgart. If you still dislike red by then, since it is my favorite color, I'll be glad to take it off your hands and return it to the country of its origin. Of course if the dollar keeps plummeting, I won't be able to pay you anything for it.
Dave, I'd be happy to trade an autographed copy of the Fiesta Bowl dvd for your #47. Zebransky's a bit hard to find these days, but Ian Johnson and Coach Pete are still around. Have you noticed how many teams have tried that play or the hook and lateral since, most without success? Sometimes it just takes someone like Al to align the stars correctly. He also seems to have his share of Polish stubbornness.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2007-12-11 5:46 PM (#71024 - in reply to #71008)
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Paul, don't let us cross bridges before we've reached them. But be asured that I will post pictures the minute I'll hold it in my hands. And I can already say, it is nothing spectacular. It was a stock colour.

Marc, yes, I would love to do this, but I am very sad to tell you that this guitar does not belong to the USA - and won't feel comfortable overseas. It is that special "German Edition". I am sure you only forgot.

Kurt
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dobro
Posted 2007-12-11 5:50 PM (#71025 - in reply to #71008)
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How much flexibility was there with regard to the features of the OFC Adamas? What was the price tag? Sounds fantastic, can't wait to see a pic...
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Tony Calman
Posted 2007-12-11 6:09 PM (#71026 - in reply to #71008)
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Check out Jerome's website for pics of the OFC guitar...guess I need to send some for # 7. He also has pics of the 47RI
OFC guitars
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Tony Calman
Posted 2007-12-11 6:11 PM (#71027 - in reply to #71008)
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Haven't had time to see this post earlier...however, this is what I emailed Al at 9:17 am today:

Congratulations on getting the final part of an
outstanding example of an Adamas and your service.

If I have # 3 47RI and # 7 OFC...guess that makes a perfect 10!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-12-11 7:24 PM (#71028 - in reply to #71008)
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Thanks for the link, Tony. I wish I had thought about Jerome's site back when the weather was good. I never got around to taking decent pictures of mine.
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alpep
Posted 2007-12-11 8:56 PM (#71029 - in reply to #71008)
Subject: Re: THE OFC ADAMAS SLOTHEAD GUITAR


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Thanks guys.

Yes much hard work went into getting these guitars done. It is rather anticlimatic at this point. My intent was to make this a package detailed in a way that many other major manufacturers make their custom orders special. I think that I succeeded.

Dave I do remember that conversation. you are the only person that calls from amsterdam.
when I say we never close I mean it... especially the nights that I suffer from insomnia. Ask a few of the members here about our 3 or 5 am phone conversations.

bumps along the way? sure many.
the cases were the biggest hurdle. When I got the word that they would finally be shipped I breathed a big sigh of relief finally the package will be complete. but I will not say it is over until the cases are finally in the hands of the owners of the guitars.

of course shipping rose 50 percent between the time I specced out the guitar and package and priced them out but as a man of my word I honored the original quoted price.

Oh yeah those really cool axxess bags? why did I even think they would ship inside the guitar box with the rest of the stuff silly me another cost I did not factor in. I bet you wondered why I took the hercules stand out of the box and shipped the box flat? so I did not have yet another cost to ship the stand.

sure we went though a long drawn out discussion on the specs of the instrument.
I was accussed of being an elitist, not being in touch with the needs and wants of the membership, I was called a liar, a profiteer (funny I thought businesses were suppose to make money) and ultimately I was threatened with a lawsuit. (still waiting for that one to happen LOL bring it on!!!!!)

So was I miserable at times? grouchy? irritable?
yes all three. it was not easy trying to juggle the everday banter on the board with trying to order what I thought would be the most spectacular and special guitars in Ovation/Adamas history.

one thing only a few knew at that time was that I was also dealing with the illness and subsequent death of my mom which absorbed most of my focus and time. so when I was being ridiculed and threatened with lawsuits etc, it was not my main focus.

regarless of all that stuff we still wound up with a stellar guitar. I know it was expensive but quality always is. So In between we had a run of u681t 12 strings, koa 12 frets (a few available) koa 14 frets (many available) ofc guitar straps and some stellar custom orders. Breaking the mold and putting it back into the focus of the guitar player.

soon you will hear of a 08 collector's and compare it to some of the things you've seen me order. more on that later.....

I know that I bugged Rick Hall way too much for this project but he was committed to making it happen, (no matter who decided to threw a monkey wrench into the works) The guys at the factory were just stellar in getting me what I wanted exactly how I wanted it, Darren, Mark, Howard, Sherwood, Kim, John, etc etc etc. And of course thanks to Frank Untermyer for caving in and approving the building of these speical guitars. A special thanks to Bill for signing the labels and Cliff for designing them and the certificates.

So what do I do next?

just wait
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Beggin
Posted 2007-12-11 9:38 PM (#71030 - in reply to #71008)
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Great job Al!

Asking us to wait for the next treat is like asking a pack of wolves to not feast on a fresh kill..............Ok, ok, I'm waiting! :p :D
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Beggin
Posted 2007-12-11 9:39 PM (#71031 - in reply to #71008)
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BTW Al, '08 Collectors?
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-11 9:40 PM (#71032 - in reply to #71008)
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