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Location: Upper Left USA | So I just picked up this Nutmeg-ish Viper on Ebay:
Maple Viper
I also have this lovely 12 string neck and a Viper pickup that reads 10.17 resistance. I'll have to check the wire colors but I'm sure it is a Neck pup and not a middle.
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Nice grab, Mike. Is that the original neck on that one? The maple on maple looks really odd with that particular finish...maybe it's just me.
Hey, by the way, do you have any extra Viper or Preacher cases you don't need? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | No extras, but I know someone in Jersey...
Maybe I could trade you for a full one? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Woody, for me two pups on a twelve is plenty.
With a twelve you are looking for that "sound".
Once you have it, what more are you looking for?
Having additional pups to me merely clutters the sound. JMO for what its worth. |
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Location: NW Washington State | Three pickups? I have a body that would be nice for that! Seems to be one piece, not sure what the wood is.
Hmmm, image tags didn't seem to work...
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Location: SoCal | Woodrow, that guitar is perfect the way it is. I wouldn't mess with it. I did that once and as nice as the guitar I ended up with turned out, I'm sorry I did it. Better to get beat up parts and build something new.
What 12 string neck do you have? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | So its like I was thinking Two is company, Three is a Crowd... (Shut up Jeff!)
It looks like it is a one piece Ash or Maple. Can I talk you into parting with it - or having me put the rest of the pieces together for you? |
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Location: CT | Originally posted by MWoody:
Can anyone offer an opinion about a three pickup 12 string? Just put it together. Give us a review when it's done! :D |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Use a Janglebox. Then you only need one pickup. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Hmmm, I see that the Janglebox is available through the website and there aren't any on Ebay right now. Do you highly reccomend this pedal Professor? |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | For a Viper III:
neck p/u = 10k
middle = 5k
bridge = 2.5k |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | the 12 neck won't fit it. |
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Location: NW Washington State | Originally posted by BruDeV:
For a Viper III:
neck p/u = 10k
middle = 5k
bridge = 2.5k Really? On most guitars the bridge pickup is wound hotter than the neck. The wide range from 2.5K up to 10K is unusual too, assuming the magnets and wire are the same.
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Location: Upper Left USA | "the 12 neck won't fit it."
Not without a little skimming on both sides. Then it makes going back to a standard neck next unlikely.
Thanks to all, thought I'd ask about what seems to be a waste of a good neck. |
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Location: SoCal | Woodrow, what 12 string neck do you have? |
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Location: NJ | ". . what seems to be a waste of a good neck . ."
- M(the "Hanging Judge")Woody |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Paul,
I just left you a voice mail cuz you are obviously too busy playing on the PC to answer your phone!
My excuse is that I'm home today with my throat on fire and my head full of mush. At least I got a rise out of Cliff so I feel like I've accomplished something...
I grabbed a figured Red/Brown neck from Seriesiii88 - to those who know from what basement it came from. |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | Neck p/u = 10,000 turns #43 wire
Middle = 5,000 turns #43 wire
Bridge = 5,000 turns #40 wire |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Both Neck and Bridge should measure about the same, around 9-11K, although I have seen a couple as high as 14K.
The middle pickup is identified by being around 5K-8K
2.5 K ??? I'd check it again, and test it in a guitar. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Bruce has got the specs right. |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | For a regular Viper it should be about 10k for both pickups. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Mauvis and BruDev,
I was referring to the impedance not the number of winds.
Neck = 10K ohms
Middle = 7K ohms
Bridge = 10K ohms
This is what at least two of my Viper III's have worked out to be. I thought it odd that the Bridge with only 5000 winds also came up to 9.9K ohms but figured that was because of the #40 wire.
Is this not correct? Could it be that both the Viper III's I tested... someone just put in regular Viper bridge pickups?
Always learn'n... |
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Location: NW Washington State | Going from 10,000 turns 43AWG neck to 5,000 turns 43AWG middle would make a big difference in output if the magnets are similar- the middle would be lower. Is this what they were trying for?
I think that using 40AWG (bigger wire) in the bridge might mean less inductance and give cleaner, brighter sound. Usually you see a higher resistance/inductance pickup in the bridge position.
Ovation solidbodies are nothing if not quirky.
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Location: San Bernardino, California | The higher the guage number the smaller the wire which results in higher resistence.
Some examples for copper wire:
40 has 1050 ohms per 1000 feet,
42 has 1660 ohms per 1000 feet,
44 has 2590 ohms per 1000 feet,
10 has 1 ohm per 1000 feet,
0 has .1 ohm per 1000 feet,
0000 has .05 ohms per 1000 feet. |
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Location: enid, ok | Numbfingers, I'm with ya. I understand some of the technical stuff (windings, etc), but I think you hit the nail on the head. Quirky. |
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Viper III with a 12 string neck - Help
