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onpointwoodproducts
Posted 2007-12-26 6:27 PM (#68637)
Subject: Broken guitar


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My worship leader at my church dropped his guitar and broke the top. Does anyone know where to get replacement parts for the guitar. Looks like I will have to make a new top and bracing, but am wondering what kind of glue to use in joining the wood to the plastic.

Thanks for any help
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an4340
Posted 2007-12-26 6:53 PM (#68638 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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If in doubt, take it to a luthier. If you just want to screw around, just go to HOme Depot and ask for the strongest glue for plastic to wood. Don't expect anything pretty though.
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an4340
Posted 2007-12-26 6:54 PM (#68639 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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You might want to get a book on guitar repair like Guitar Repair by Dan Erlwine.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-12-26 7:30 PM (#68640 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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Depends on the guitar. I am assuming it is an Ovation because you said "wood to plastic" If it's an inexpensive/easy to find one, it might be easier/cheaper to replace it with another. If it's a more expensive one or has sentimental value, and you really want it done to perfection, send it back to the factory.
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FlySig
Posted 2007-12-26 7:31 PM (#68641 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar



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If it were me I would send it back to the Mother Ship, aka the factory.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-12-26 7:40 PM (#68642 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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Tell your worship leader to be more careful.....
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MWoody
Posted 2007-12-26 8:15 PM (#68643 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar



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Hand it over to your local BFLG OFC member...


And Welcome to the site!
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2007-12-26 8:38 PM (#68644 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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What's the model #? Does the label say "Made in New Hartford, Conn.?

John <>{
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seesquare
Posted 2007-12-26 11:02 PM (#68645 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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Technically, the preferred adhesive is the 5-minute, 2-part epoxy. I don't work anywhere that fast, so I use the 90-minute type.
If you're contemplating a top replacement, it better be worth the time & effort. I would agree with the observations of my learned colleagues; if it's a USA "O", send it to The Wizards @ The MotherShip. If not, do it locally.
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Beal
Posted 2007-12-26 11:34 PM (#68646 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar



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Call Elderly Instruments in Lansing Mi. They can answer questions as well.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-27 12:02 AM (#68647 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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Another good reason that warship leaders should play taylors. Dave
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cholloway
Posted 2007-12-27 4:54 AM (#68648 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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I'm assuming that's a typo???
;)
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AussieJames
Posted 2007-12-27 6:56 AM (#68649 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar



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I don't think so :D :D
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-27 9:12 AM (#68650 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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I just types em like I sez um. Dave
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-27 9:42 AM (#68651 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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I may have seen a pic of John Paul Jones with a Taylor at one time . . . .
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Waskel
Posted 2007-12-27 9:44 AM (#68652 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar



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The bass player or the sailor?
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an4340
Posted 2007-12-27 12:40 PM (#68653 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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He sings like this:
Argh Mateys! Fill my sails
Argh Mateys! Across the sea Argh! Argh! Argh!
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an4340
Posted 2007-12-27 12:55 PM (#68654 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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Definitely a warship leader ...

PS Also stew mac answers questions too.
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onpointwoodproducts
Posted 2007-12-27 5:05 PM (#68655 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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Wow you guys are brutal. There is some good advice in there. The guitar is a model 1612 made in Conn. The 5 min epoxy I think I will try. I am glueing up the top tonight and will try to fit it this weekend. Does any one have experience sending guitars to the factory. What would it cost to have them put a new top on? Either way I will make a post when I get the guitar back together
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-12-27 5:14 PM (#68656 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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Plenty of experience sending them back. The factory sometimes does a better job fixing them than they do building them in the first place. You will need to contact John Budny or Kim Keller to get a return auth. number, then ship it to them and they will give you a written estimate before repair. I don't know how they feel about posting their email addresses so I will pm you the address.
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jeffeman
Posted 2007-12-27 8:31 PM (#68657 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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I'm assuming your 1612 is relatively old, at least 20 years. I've heard great things about sending them to Ovation for repair, but, the caveat is a new top may change the tone. Your top has "opened up" over 20 years, and probably sounds kind of mellow. Something to think about.
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onpointwoodproducts
Posted 2007-12-27 10:31 PM (#68658 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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Ok thanks. I have my new top in the glue now and hope to have a good feel if I can make it work in a couple of days. I have lots of woodworking experence and have some interest in making guitars for myself. I am just playing around with this one. If all else fails I will send to back the factory.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-12-27 10:37 PM (#68659 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar



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I hope you'll consider posting some before and after pics for the rest of us to admire. Many of us have little skill in this area and even less patience to try it, so we appreciate the work of those who can and do. You sound like you have some experience in this area.
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seesquare
Posted 2007-12-27 11:12 PM (#68660 - in reply to #68637)
Subject: Re: Broken guitar


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Typically, The MotherShip likes to replace the top & bowl, as a unit. About $500.00, ballpark-estimate.
We are always looking for more BFLG personnel, though. You appear to have the requisite prowess & fortitude!
FYI: "BottomFeeders Luthiery Guild", and/or "BottomFeeders League of Gentlemen"
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