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scottypp
Posted 2014-07-16 7:26 PM (#489696)
Subject: Balladeer 1112-1


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So, i bought a project guitar. It's a vintage Ovation that had been sent back to the factory for a new top.

The new top originally looked like doo-doo. It was raw -plywood looking. But, after some 220 grit sanding, it looks much better. It has been pre-drilled for the bridge. It came with all the parts necessary to build it out.

My only issue - is around the edges , where the binding meets the bowl. There are some "gaps".

Any recommendation on how to "fill" those gaps ??
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MWoody
Posted 2014-07-16 11:14 PM (#489708 - in reply to #489696)
Subject: Re: Balladeer 1112-1



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Scott,
Not sure where to start without photos.
You do your own binding but if it was sent back to the factory for a new top why wouldn't have been finished?
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scottypp
Posted 2014-07-17 6:22 PM (#489730 - in reply to #489696)
Subject: Re: Balladeer 1112-1


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scottypp
Posted 2014-07-17 6:55 PM (#489732 - in reply to #489696)
Subject: Re: Balladeer 1112-1


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http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/scottypp/7e10e0e39dc492370...
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scottypp
Posted 2014-07-17 6:57 PM (#489733 - in reply to #489696)
Subject: Re: Balladeer 1112-1


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http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/scottypp/d27553189a10e252e...

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/scottypp/6be6d82765974bee2...
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scottypp
Posted 2014-07-17 6:59 PM (#489734 - in reply to #489696)
Subject: Re: Balladeer 1112-1


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a few Ipad pics, not the best quality- but best i can do for now. the top was very ruff wood, but i have sanded it in steps up to 220 grit - and it feels great.

Am i missing the binding or something between the bowl and the edge ?
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MWoody
Posted 2014-07-17 7:52 PM (#489735 - in reply to #489696)
Subject: Re: Balladeer 1112-1



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That does look odd. You'd expect the binding to stand a little proud.
Could always add another layer to the binding.
Sanding the Bowl down to match and refinishing the bowl is another option.
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DanSavage
Posted 2014-07-18 1:50 PM (#489751 - in reply to #489708)
Subject: Re: Balladeer 1112-1



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MWoody - 2014-07-16 9:14 PM

Scott,
Not sure where to start without photos.
You do your own binding but if it was sent back to the factory for a new top why wouldn't have been finished?


I'm with you on this, Mike.

I don't think the factory would send back an unfinished guitar, especially with it looking like that. I suspect the seller 'said' it was sent to the factory.

Scott,

Can you provide any pics of what the inside looks like where the top joins the kerfing?
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scottypp
Posted 2014-07-18 8:52 PM (#489756 - in reply to #489696)
Subject: Re: Balladeer 1112-1


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http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/scottypp/20140718_181536.j...
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/scottypp/20140718_181451.j...

thanks for the info, guys.

Question...if i sand and refinish the bowl, how can i duplicate the "pebble finish" on the bowl.
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DanSavage
Posted 2014-07-20 4:42 PM (#489771 - in reply to #489696)
Subject: RE: Balladeer 1112-1



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I'm not sure what type of paint they used on the bowls, but judging from how hard it is I would have to guess that it's either epoxy or polyurethane.

I searched around for textured paint for my 1619 and could only find two types: bumper paint and truck bed coating.

The bumper paint is pretty expensive to buy, so I decided to go with Rust-Oleum truck bed coating.

 

Here's a glimpse of what it looks like.

 

It's definitely softer than the factory paint, and takes a bit of practice to get it to look like the factory surface texture, but it does a pretty good job. I paid $10 for a can and bought it at my local AutoZone.

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scottypp
Posted 2014-07-23 9:20 PM (#490826 - in reply to #489696)
Subject: Re: Balladeer 1112-1


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thats a great suggestion- thanks !
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Tony Calman
Posted 2014-07-24 11:55 PM (#490856 - in reply to #489696)
Subject: Re: Balladeer 1112-1



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RustOleum (or however it is spelled) has a paint (in can) that covers almost all surfaces (wood, metal, etc.)...even made the 1987 frame of my patio door screen look like new even after at least 3 years. Used what is called a 'burnt copper' which was black but had light flakes of copper similar to the Adamas bowels. Might give it a great effect even better than the original.
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