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kentrookie
Posted 2014-05-24 6:02 PM (#487072)
Subject: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)


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Today I purchased a Viper that obviously has had a past.

Noticed after purchase that it does not have the screw in the back like my other Viper.
After doing a google image search, seeing pictures that suggest that some did and some did not.

Wondering if there was some type of an update in the production design that removed or added the screw.
And if so what came first?
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FlySig
Posted 2014-05-24 7:17 PM (#487075 - in reply to #487072)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)



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Can you post a picture of the bridge?
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MWoody
Posted 2014-05-24 8:25 PM (#487077 - in reply to #487072)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)



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Kent,
The first units were the Black Plastic and Brass and came with the anchor bolt and you can tell by the through hole in the body. The single piece Schallers that came later did not have the anchor.

Post some photos anyway!
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danomyte
Posted 2014-05-25 5:27 AM (#487084 - in reply to #487072)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)



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The difference in sustain between the two bridge styles is amazing. The later 70s Schallers are the best. The plastic cover ones don't have the finish issues the schaller had that's for sure. Still great guitars, vipers are very underpriced right now.
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kentrookie
Posted 2014-05-25 8:37 AM (#487086 - in reply to #487072)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)


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Here are the picture links posted from my Ovation Photo album... (my apologies to Damon , maybe I can get this guitar a real photo sitting someday)

>the color is a dark irish green with a slight sparkle.
>Previous owner used as worship guitar
>Plays great

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/photos/get-photo.asp?photoid=...
http://www.ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/photos/show-album.asp?albumid...
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MWoody
Posted 2014-05-25 8:55 AM (#487087 - in reply to #487072)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)



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One of the nicer refinish jobs I've seen so far.
I'll be playing a Viper at gatherings this morning, nice sound!
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numbfingers
Posted 2014-05-25 12:41 PM (#487093 - in reply to #487084)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)


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The later all-metal bridge like yours doesn't use a screw through the back. Is there something engraved on the top of the bridge? I like the green finish.


danomyte - 2014-05-25 5:27 AM
The difference in sustain between the two bridge styles is amazing. The later 70s Schallers are the best. The plastic cover ones don't have the finish issues the schaller had that's for sure. Still great guitars, vipers are very underpriced right now.


When you say the later 70s are the best, do you mean the all-metal type like we're seeing here?

I can't decide on the later chrome (or gold) metal bridges. You can rock them back and forth on the studs so they don't seem completely secure, but they are a nice heavy chunk of metal.

My favorite is the type with the black plastic cover and the slots/screws to fasten the saddles down, and the screw through the back to fix the whole thing in place.

Vipers don't cost as much as other quality guitars from the era, but that's a theme for Ovations in general. If you're a shopper, you can find a nice one for $500-$600. That's more than they were selling for 5 years ago!

-Steve W.
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Damon67
Posted 2014-05-25 5:36 PM (#487099 - in reply to #487072)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)



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I prefer the newer all metal bridges. It takes quite a bit of force to rock the bridge back, I'm not sure what you mean by 'forth'. They're easier to string, look nicer, and seem to have better sustain
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danomyte
Posted 2014-05-27 5:46 AM (#487146 - in reply to #487093)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)



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Yes the all metal chrome Schallers. I've had both types and the chrome big ones really sustain. Of course everyone's taste is different, I just prefer the big honking chrome ones. The chrome does pit bad over time if you don't keep them clean from hand oils and sweat. Vipers are such cool guitars, I'd buy a dozen of them if I had money to burn!
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2014-05-27 7:12 AM (#487149 - in reply to #487146)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)


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danomyte - 2014-05-27 3:46 AM
Yes the all metal chrome Schallers. I've had both types and the chrome big ones really sustain. Of course everyone's taste is different,!


I actually prefer the original brass ones with the black cover. I'm not sure I'd classify the newer ones as "more" sustain, but certainly different sustain. I like the tone of the older ones. I also like the nylon saddles on the early Breadwinner bridges. It may have to do with the amount of gain I used when I played those guitars, although I know Damon has been known to crank it up as well, but I didn't like the tone as much with the newer ones when I lay on the gain.

Newer ones are certainly easier to change strings, I'll give'em that.
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MWoody
Posted 2014-05-27 10:13 AM (#487152 - in reply to #487072)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)



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"forth", aka "fro", yon", "tat", "yang", "yaw", "Garfunkel" or "and Messina"...

Paired complimentary terms that follow in a habitual phrase but are not always correct.
They get used now and then...
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Damon67
Posted 2014-05-27 10:26 AM (#487153 - in reply to #487072)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)



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Miles just likes the older ones cuz HE's older
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MWoody
Posted 2014-05-27 11:12 AM (#487154 - in reply to #487072)
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"There are no new tricks worth doing!" - Old Dog
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numbfingers
Posted 2014-05-27 11:57 AM (#487156 - in reply to #487149)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)


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I have one of the chrome ones on my Deacon. If I apply enough pressure to the heel of the bridge (with strings on), I can move it There and Back Again. Seems like that might lose a little string vibration, maybe not enough to matter.

I can understand how younger people might like the shiny looking bridge, but they're also likely to be fooled by guitars made of aluminum and lightweight foam with a faux woodgrain pattern painted on.
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Damon67
Posted 2014-05-27 12:44 PM (#487158 - in reply to #487072)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)



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:P
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2014-05-27 2:50 PM (#487161 - in reply to #487156)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)


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numbfingers - 2014-05-27 9:57 AM

I can understand how younger people might like the shiny looking bridge, but they're also likely to be fooled by guitars made of aluminum and lightweight foam with a faux woodgrain pattern painted on.


Bazinga !!!!! Game, Set & Match
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Damon67
Posted 2014-05-27 9:31 PM (#487179 - in reply to #487072)
Subject: Re: Viper 1271 (Bridge adjustment screw in back question)



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I'm gonna shut up, follow Frank's advise, and go play my UKII... or maybe the Odyssey.... man that thing is sweet.



Edited by Damon67 2014-05-27 9:32 PM
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