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sycamore
Posted 2014-03-26 5:33 AM (#484476)
Subject: Non-0vation Classical Rescue Project


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Rescued a basic-quality classical from a neighbours shed. Had an interesting looking bridge/saddle setup, saddle made of black fibrous material, which was too thin for the bridge slot so it sloped toward the soundhole. Put in a white plastic saddle, still a bit thin but height is good, will make a better-fitting saddle when I get the time. Fitted hard-tension nylons and she plays fine, intonation pretty good. Fitted strap buttons.

Fretboard is starting to split from neck in places (just enough to slide a sheet of paper, and leaves a sharp edge which is uncomfortable for the fingers). Fretboard profile seems good, so clamping and gluing it might upset it. Was thinking of just filling the split, maybe with epoxy what do you think? Possibly leave it a few weeks to adapt from damp shed to dry house?

Edited by sycamore 2014-03-26 5:35 AM
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Patch
Posted 2014-03-26 6:33 AM (#484479 - in reply to #484476)
Subject: RE: Non-0vation Classical Rescue Project



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Must.....have.....pictures.....

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ksdaddy
Posted 2014-03-26 7:35 AM (#484482 - in reply to #484476)
Subject: Re: Non-0vation Classical Rescue Project


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Only a sheet of paper? Might as well glue it back where it should be. Titebond makes a super glue specifically for wood and I can attest that it works wonderful on 'quickie' stuff like this.
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sycamore
Posted 2014-03-27 10:26 AM (#484510 - in reply to #484476)
Subject: Re: Non-0vation Classical Rescue Project


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Took some photos but the gap too small to see, will try again later. Seems to be getting smaller actually.
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sycamore
Posted 2014-03-31 5:21 AM (#484636 - in reply to #484476)
Subject: Re: Non-0vation Classical Rescue Project


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Is it Titebond 'Liquid Hide Glue'? Do I need a water soluble glue?
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MWoody
Posted 2014-03-31 7:57 AM (#484640 - in reply to #484476)
Subject: Re: Non-0vation Classical Rescue Project



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Humidity might be the answer. Tight bond water soluble sounds correct.
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sycamore
Posted 2014-04-07 5:35 AM (#484899 - in reply to #484476)
Subject: Re: Non-0vation Classical Rescue Project


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Well I got in as much wood glue as I could, gave it a squeeze with vice and clamps, will continue to squeeze for 24 hrs or so.
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sycamore
Posted 2014-04-24 4:57 AM (#485619 - in reply to #484476)
Subject: Re: Non-0vation Classical Rescue Project


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Glue job went OK, might smooth it off with a bit of wood filler.

OK next question. The fretboard seems to be some sort of pale coloured hardwood with a dark stain which has worn away. I was thinking of (a) re-staining it or (b) seeing what the natural colour is like. Would I need to seal the wood in either case?
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sycamore
Posted 2015-02-12 8:44 AM (#505567 - in reply to #484476)
Subject: RE: Non-0vation Classical Rescue Project


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Thought you might be interested in my findings re staining the fretboard. Stewmac sells a product for blackening fretboards which is actually a leather dye. I bought a similar product locally (ie. black alcohol-based dye) and it worked pretty well. Might be worth trying if you have a similar project but maybe not on a quality instrument.

Edited by sycamore 2015-02-12 8:52 AM




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jay
Posted 2015-02-12 10:46 AM (#505570 - in reply to #505567)
Subject: RE: Non-0vation Classical Rescue Project



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I was going to say that this stuff is great...but too late.

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sycamore
Posted 2015-02-12 10:57 AM (#505571 - in reply to #484476)
Subject: Re: Non-0vation Classical Rescue Project


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Thanks for that. The cynic in me suspects that many products sold as wood dye, fretboard stain leather dye etc are the same i.e. some coloured stuff dissolved in alcohol but I'd probably use the proper stuff if working on a better guitar.

Edited by sycamore 2015-02-12 11:03 AM
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DanSavage
Posted 2015-02-12 1:01 PM (#505584 - in reply to #505571)
Subject: Re: Non-0vation Classical Rescue Project



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The 'colored' stuff is simply artists dry pigment. Wonderful product. It's inert so it can be freely used in all kinds of glues, solvents, etc. I've used it to color epoxy resin, lacquer, etc. (except CA, of course.)

Edited by DanSavage 2015-02-12 1:02 PM
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