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Rafazu41
Posted 2014-01-13 2:00 PM (#481211)
Subject: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe


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Hello everyone, this is my first post.

I am looking for some help recognizing an Ovation guitar i found today in a local pawn shop.

I dont have pictures at the moment but i would get some by tomorrow.

The guitar is a Celebrity Deluxe Model cc057 Made in the USA (thats what i could read in the sticker inside)

It is a Nylon string guitar with a classical guitar style headstock like this one: http://hotrf.eu/userfiles/productlargeimages/product_2499.jpg

But it also have a steel string guitar style bridge, with the pins like this one: http://www.chrisalsopguitar.co.uk/images/gallery/pinsAndBridge_Stan...


I have been looking in the internet but all nylon string Ovation i have seen have the classical style bridge. Also the model cc057 is suposed to be a steel string guitar.

Thanks in advance for any helo!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-01-13 2:45 PM (#481214 - in reply to #481211)
Subject: Re: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe



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We would need to see photos...
A CC059 is a nylon string guitar, but not a CC057.

Also, Ovation doesn't use Bridge Pins.
It might be some kind of Franken-Celebrity.
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Rafazu41
Posted 2014-01-13 2:51 PM (#481215 - in reply to #481211)
Subject: RE: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe


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Im going back to the store and getting some pics! its really wierd, the guitar plays good and looks nice, it seems to have a headstock repair.

is the cc059 and cc057 made in USA?
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Rafazu41
Posted 2014-01-13 5:12 PM (#481219 - in reply to #481211)
Subject: RE: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe


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Ok so here i got some crappy cellphone pics, hope they work

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Rafazu41
Posted 2014-01-13 5:15 PM (#481220 - in reply to #481211)
Subject: RE: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe


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Sorry for the double post, can someone explain me how to upload a picture?

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Rafazu41
Posted 2014-01-13 5:31 PM (#481221 - in reply to #481211)
Subject: RE: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe


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Finally, here are the pictures.











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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-01-13 6:33 PM (#481222 - in reply to #481211)
Subject: Re: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe



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That label is one-of-a-kind.
Celebrity and Celebrity Deluxe models are made in Asia...
That is what makes them Celebrity's.
Also... Does anyone use bridge pins for nylon strings?
This is definitely a modified guitar, even the housing for the OP-24+ preamp is weird.
As is the battery box.
That is either a One-of-a-Kind Ovation...
Or somebody's Project.

Does it Play nice? Is it "affordable"?
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Rafazu41
Posted 2014-01-13 7:03 PM (#481223 - in reply to #481211)
Subject: RE: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe


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Thanks for the reply

The guitar plays good. The guy is asking 900.000pesos which is about 450US. The price is a bit steep but still no thaaaat bad taking into place guitars are much more expensive here.

Do you think this could be a fake? what should i check for?
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TAFKAR
Posted 2014-01-13 7:53 PM (#481224 - in reply to #481211)
Subject: Re: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe



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I'm with OMA - that didn't come out of any Ovation factory looking like that.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2014-01-13 8:09 PM (#481226 - in reply to #481211)
Subject: Re: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe


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Of all the odd things on this guitar, the label is what I find the weirdest. Without the label, it's got some modifications and as long as it plays well and is affordable that's just fine. But unless there is a "perfectly good explanation" that label seems like an attempt of deception, which is not cool. But, at the same time... we have seem some weird things. Of all the mods, that Label, while seemingly not possible, is the only thing that looks like it was done professionally. I'm not dissing the guitar itself. As I said, if it plays fine and is affordable, so be it. Weren't early Celeb's made in Moosup for a short time? OMA ?
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Rafazu41
Posted 2014-01-13 8:34 PM (#481227 - in reply to #481226)
Subject: Re: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe


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mileskb - 2014-01-13 8:09 PM

Of all the odd things on this guitar, the label is what I find the weirdest. Without the label, it's got some modifications and as long as it plays well and is affordable that's just fine. But unless there is a "perfectly good explanation" that label seems like an attempt of deception, which is not cool. But, at the same time... we have seem some weird things. Of all the mods, that Label, while seemingly not possible, is the only thing that looks like it was done professionally. I'm not dissing the guitar itself. As I said, if it plays fine and is affordable, so be it. Weren't early Celeb's made in Moosup for a short time? OMA ?


This could be an old specimen since the binding is already cracking. Maybe celebs were made in the USA for a while, i have no idea.

How could i verify if the bridge was modded

Ill check it out tomorrow and look for a serial number, where should i look at?

I doubt its a fake
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MWoody
Posted 2014-01-13 8:46 PM (#481228 - in reply to #481211)
Subject: Re: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe



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Wow, that is a total oddity. Ovation/Applause/Celebrity never came with a pinned bridge.

The Headstock has been Van Go'd and it looks like repair or retro work around the preamp. But like Miles said we have seen some surprises.

 

Oh, and I didn't do this one...



Edited by MWoody 2014-01-13 8:48 PM
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-01-13 9:25 PM (#481231 - in reply to #481226)
Subject: Re: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe



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mileskb - 2014-01-13 6:09 PM

Weren't early Celeb's made in Moosup for a short time? OMA ?

I don't think so... Allison (Canterbury Strings) would know that.
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Rafazu41
Posted 2014-01-13 10:05 PM (#481232 - in reply to #481228)
Subject: Re: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe


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MWoody - 2014-01-13 8:46 PM

Wow, that is a total oddity. Ovation/Applause/Celebrity never came with a pinned bridge.

The Headstock has been Van Go'd and it looks like repair or retro work around the preamp. But like Miles said we have seen some surprises.

 

Oh, and I didn't do this one...



What do you mean by the headstock has been Van Go'd?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-01-13 10:21 PM (#481233 - in reply to #481232)
Subject: Re: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe



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Rafazu41 - 2014-01-13 8:05 PM

What do you mean by the headstock has been Van Go'd?

I have a '97 Collectors' Edition with that problem.
Here is what it should look like...


Here is what it does look like.
It has lost both of it's ears...


"Van Gogh" is referring to headstocks that have lost one of more of their ears.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2014-01-13 11:37 PM (#481234 - in reply to #481211)
Subject: Re: Rare Nylon string Celebrity Deluxe



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It's a fake, or at least not an Ovation product. Forget about the totally fake label, the bowl shape is completely wrong. Third party preamp and battery box. That's not an Ovation bridge, pinned or not. It's a frankenguitar.
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