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EricGagne
Posted 2013-11-04 9:28 AM (#479616)
Subject: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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As some of you know, I am buying an Adamas 1597 and I am going to need an amp. This is probably a stupid question but I am wondering if I should buy new or vintage.

From the electronics perspective, is there anything I should be concerned about when mixing older pickups and electronics with today's amplifiers ?
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ksdaddy
Posted 2013-11-04 11:01 AM (#479618 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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I never got on the vintage amp bandwagon. I have owned older amps but since I can't fix them, I dump them. I've sold a Fender Twin and a Dual Showman in the past couple months because I didn't want to have to replace tubes or be at the mercy of a repairman if they blew up. I've had an '88 Peavey VTX Classic since 1997 and if it blows up I'll set it out by the curb and buy another one off ebay for $200 or less. Peaveys don't have any snob appeal but they also run forever. My 'go to' amp, strategically placed right next to the couch in my man cave, is a little Fender Frontman in Texas Red, $99 shipped. Sounds just like the big boys but weighs nothing, and again, if it blows up it's easily replaced. If you're not looking for a snob amp, you can get a good amp nowadays for next to nothing.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2013-11-04 12:23 PM (#479620 - in reply to #479618)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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Older amps weigh a ton. Newr amps are lighter. What you should get for this guitar is an acoustic amp. An electric amp will sound good, and acoustic amp will sound better. If you sing, a lot of acoustic amps come with a guitar input and a mic input.
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-11-04 12:27 PM (#479621 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?



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Fishman Loudbox. Great amp/ low price
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EricGagne
Posted 2013-11-04 12:29 PM (#479622 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: RE: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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I have been shopping for a while but I wanted to confirm that a new amp was not a bad move. There's 2 that I find quite interesting.

The UltraSound AG30
http://www.ultrasoundamps.com/image-viewer-ag30.html

and the Carvin AG100D
http://www.carvinguitars.com/guitaramps/acousticseries.php


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FlySig
Posted 2013-11-04 1:19 PM (#479624 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?



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We have the Crate 60W acoustic amp. Sounds fantastic, puts out a lot of sound, decent effects, built in tilt stand on the bottom. The Bose 60W is also a great amp but not quite as loud. Much lighter to carry, good effects, tilt stand.

Many lower wattage amps seem to have worse quality sound and can't be driven very loud. The speaker especially seems to be a limiting factor in lower wattage or cheaper amps, so crank it up to see how loud it can really go without distorting.

There are some good choices out there at very affordable prices. I would go modern production rather than vintage on an acoustic amp.
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alpep
Posted 2013-11-04 2:00 PM (#479631 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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ultrasound has good reviews I never really liked them

I've had bad experiences with carvin

genz benz is great but now out of business due to fender

swr they all hiss very loudly I think fender maybe shut the door on them

fender acoustisonic meh

aer fantastic but expensive
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Damon67
Posted 2013-11-04 2:04 PM (#479632 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?



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Roland AC series
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SOBeach
Posted 2013-11-04 2:40 PM (#479638 - in reply to #479622)
Subject: RE: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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EricGagne - 2013-11-04 1:29 PM I have been shopping for a while but I wanted to confirm that a new amp was not a bad move. There's 2 that I find quite interesting. The UltraSound AG30 http://www.ultrasoundamps.com/image-viewer-ag30.html and the Carvin AG100D http://www.carvinguitars.com/guitaramps/acousticseries.php

Hi Eric, I've got a Carvin AG100D (bought it years ago) and I've been happy with it. 

 

Back when I got it I compared lots of amps, but I liked that the Carvin had three input channels and built-in effects. And I found a deal that included the 112AG extension cabinet.  

 

I don't know how the Carvin compares to the acoustic amp choices out there today, I haven't been looking around because the AG100D has been more than sufficient for my purposes so far. 

 

I recall reading that some of the earlier made AG100D amps had problems with intermittently cutting out, but I've also read that Carvin fixed that issue. Hasn't ever happened with mine.


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moody, p.i.
Posted 2013-11-04 5:17 PM (#479645 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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Acoustic amps are very different from electric amps, and the newer ones just keep getting better. Buy one not based on age, but on the features that will meet your needs. How big a venue will you be playing? Need a microphone channel? Effects? Al and Damon both play out acoustically. Listen to them...
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Beal
Posted 2013-11-04 7:28 PM (#479648 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?



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buy a new one, the important things are, how much it weighs and how easy it is to fit into your car trunk. if you can do all that one handed then pick the one that sounds good.
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alpep
Posted 2013-11-05 4:44 PM (#479667 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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what he said
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2013-11-05 6:37 PM (#479668 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?



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Oh.... I can't hold it any longer!

Get one of THESE


Plug it into the "guitar/instrument" side, and use the "MIC" selection with any effects you like.
Or plug it into the "mic/line" side and use line with some reverb... or nekkid.
I use the guitar side, and it is quite loud outside.
"Classic Stack" or "JC Clean" also sound nicely acoustic.
It is light, loud, easy to carry, runs on AC, or for a healthy-long time on AA Batteries.
It has two 6.5" speakers and can be heard a block away and just annoys the neighbors.
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EricGagne
Posted 2013-11-06 7:53 AM (#479690 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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Quite interesting so far. Kepp 'em coming
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hwebster
Posted 2013-11-06 8:20 AM (#479691 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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Roland AC and or a trace elliot 30.
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AdamasW597
Posted 2013-11-06 8:46 AM (#479694 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?



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I have used Trace Elliot acoustic amps since they came out. You can buy one that came out in the 90's, have vintage and great sound. You can find the lower watt models relatively inexpensive considering the newer ones. Trace Acoustics have a really nice Alesis reverb/effects unit built in.

Edited by AdamasW597 2013-11-06 8:47 AM
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AstroDan
Posted 2013-11-06 7:00 PM (#479728 - in reply to #479668)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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arthurseery - 2013-11-05 6:37 PM Oh.... I can't hold it any longer!

Down the hall on your left.

I have the Crate 60. Great amp. Waiting for the arival of a Roland 80X Cube.

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EricGagne
Posted 2013-11-06 9:36 PM (#479732 - in reply to #479668)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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arthurseery - 2013-11-05 7:37 PM

Oh.... I can't hold it any longer!



But why would you even try ????

Nice amp. though I feel all the effects are probably a bit overkill acoustic but the portability and the ability to run on 6 AA batteries is quite appealing.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2013-11-06 10:37 PM (#479734 - in reply to #479732)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?



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EricGagne - 2013-11-06 7:36 PM

arthurseery - 2013-11-05 7:37 PM

Oh.... I can't hold it any longer!



But why would you even try ????

Awww... Cuz I have often touted the CubeStreet.
It might seem repetitious.

If someone wanted to play clubs, or to get studio quality sound, this might not be for them.
It ain't a Loudbox or a Bose or anything like that.

But for versatility it is pretty good.
You do have more effects than I would ever use.
But you can play electric guitars through it.
It has a mic channel for singing, harp, or to run a second acoustic guitar through.
You can run an MP3 player into it

And, like I have said, I just use it like a PA.
It is loud enough that the police often ask me to turn it down.
(they claim that it isn't cuz my playing sux)

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gmaslin
Posted 2013-11-07 6:28 AM (#479750 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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+1 for the loudbox. Get a modeler or pedal if you want effects.
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deminimis
Posted 2014-01-24 2:32 PM (#481498 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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Old thread, but no mention is you settled on an amp, so I'll pipe in: US made Fender Blues Jr (which means used). My O sounds mighty good through it. If you so chose, you can mod the amp quite inexpensively should you later desire. All that said, my O sounds horrible if I try to over, overdrive it (which is not the amp's fault), but simply running direct or through a whammy, it's most excellent. Tube and reasonably portable.
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rick endres
Posted 2014-02-05 2:20 PM (#481901 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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Roland AC 60. Lots of power and tone for its compact size. Mountable on a small tripod stand; also has a fold up stand on the bottom of the amp. I bought mine when they first came out and have been using it exclusively ever since. It has sweet built-in chorus, delay and reverb - all I ever use. You could add pedals if you want more effects. It has an excellent vocal channel too. It's everything I need for solo gigs and I can plug it into the PA when I play with the band...
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deminimis
Posted 2014-02-05 5:37 PM (#481903 - in reply to #479616)
Subject: Re: New amp for vintage guitar ?


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I said 'whammy," above, but meant "wha wha." Several typos in my post too, but I guess that's the risk of typing on a phone. Did you get an amp? Let's hear a report!
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