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Fridave![]() |
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Joined: February 2008 Posts: 247 Location: Delaware | Help me out guys. Took a shim out of my 1717 Legend today to lower the action a bit. Now I have a very slight string buzz. I'm a complete novice at O action setup. Are all the shims the same thickness? I didn't check, just took out the top one. Any suggestions? Many years ago I removed a shim from my '79 Balladeer and had no issues with string buzz! Thanks guys. | ||
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Northcountry![]() |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 2487 | Well the obvious solution is to replace the shim, If this makes the action to high you can use various materials to make a custom thickness. ? I don't know what you have around but I have found pieces of harwood sanded to the thickness work well. I also have a lot of different thickness pieces of brass stock for model making so this works well also. If your action is terribly high over the high frets then take a look down the neck like your sighting down the barrel of a gun. If you have an obvious bend in the neck you might want to have someone look at this for you, it is an easy adjustment and have someone show you how to do it if you don't already know. Enjoy Randy | ||
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Jeff W.![]() |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | The shims can indeed be different thicknesses... ... and you might consider tweekin' the truss rod a 1/4 turn | ||
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an4340![]() |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389 Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I agree Jeff. Sounds like a truss rod twist is necessary. | ||
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Fridave![]() |
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Joined: February 2008 Posts: 247 Location: Delaware | Tweak the rod, counter clockwise would be my guess, but with my luck on a 50/50 chance I'm probably wrong! Straighten me out, which way should I turn it? | ||
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Jeff W.![]() |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | counter-clock wise (to reduce "back-bow" i.e. straighten it) | ||
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Fridave![]() |
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Joined: February 2008 Posts: 247 Location: Delaware | BTW I forgot to mention the strings I'm using are 11 - 46, and I tune down 1/2 step. Thanks for the replies. | ||
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Jeff W.![]() |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | then definitely "tweak the rod" (ShutUp, Waskel) | ||
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G8r![]() |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | Ahh, there's your problem. Don't be a Pu assy and go to heavier gauge strings! :D ;) | ||
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cliff![]() |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | ". . Don't be a Pu assy and go to heavier gauge strings! . ." Especially if yer going to lower tuning. I'd go with at LEAST .012's (maybe .013's). | ||
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Fridave![]() |
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Joined: February 2008 Posts: 247 Location: Delaware | With the tune down and light gauge strings, does the neck not have enough relief now or are light gauge strings prone to buzz? Like I said I took out one shim. Did it many many years ago on my '79 Baladeer, same gauge strings,no issues. I do strum pretty hard when I'm gettin into it ! | ||
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Todd![]() |
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Joined: October 2003 Posts: 134 Location: Lakewood, Ohio | I read somewhere, probably here, that someone took out a shim on a Celebrity and it caused his guitar to have less volume accoustically. Maybe somehow altered the transfer of string vibration to the top. | ||
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G8r![]() |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | Yep - changes the break angle - the angle formed by the strings coming down from the saddle to the bridge. A shallower angle transfers less vibration, I believe, resulting in reduced top vibration & thus lower volume. | ||
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Old Man Arthur![]() |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Put in some 12-53's, tune it back up to normal, and your problem will be solved. | ||
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