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Need to install strap lock buttons on my Celebrity guitars

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wader
Posted 2013-05-06 10:02 PM (#470248)
Subject: Need to install strap lock buttons on my Celebrity guitars


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Posts: 12

Location: NY

Hi Folks,

I recently obtained a friend for my CC-057 Celebrity, a CC-045 (i.e., 12-string) in excellent condition.  Very satisfied with both guitars, which are typically played while sitting - but, I now have a need to play while standing and have come to realize that both of them appear to have standard strap buttons.  So, my Schaller straps with Schaller locks are incompatible.

I recall reading on this board that Dunlop-compatible strap buttons were standard on Ovations at some point - guess that was after the timeframe for these guitars.

Would installation of a Schaller (or other system) strap button be as straightforward as unscrewing the current buttons and replacing them with new ones?  Assuming I try to match lengths of screws, etc.

- wader

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muzza
Posted 2013-05-06 10:59 PM (#470250 - in reply to #470248)
Subject: Re: Need to install strap lock buttons on my Celebrity guitars



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Posts: 3736

Location: Sunshine State, Australia
IIRC, going from Dunlop to Schaller pins is OK but you may have to pack out the screw holes as the Dunlop screws are a heavier gauge.

But, you don't have Dunlop pins, just the generic ones. Shouldn't be a problem at all.

I suggest you unscrew one of the pins and take the screw down to the local guitar shop and compare it with the screws in a Schaller straplock system. Or, use the original screws with a Schaller pin.

It ain't rocket science.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2013-05-06 11:14 PM (#470251 - in reply to #470248)
Subject: Re: Need to install strap lock buttons on my Celebrity guitars



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Posts: 10777

Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR
Ovation straps are held on with Bolts (not screws) that go through "mollies" in the bowl.
So you need bolts the same diameter that have the same thread as the originals.
You could remove the strap bolts to see if they will fit your Schaller strap-lock buttons.
Ovation used Dunlop strap-loc buttons on the USA Ovations. (and probably on the AX/TX)
You could contact the Ovation factory and ask for the strap bolts.
The strap bolt for the regular buttons will no fit in the Dunlop strap buttons.
But the MotherShip has bolts that will fit... You could email them at askus@ovationguitars.com
Or you could call them... Search for Ovation Guitar, New Hartford, CT to find their phone number.

But first, just see if the current bolts will fit Schaller buttons.

(or what Muzza said... )

Edited by Old Man Arthur 2013-05-06 11:22 PM
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wader
Posted 2013-05-08 12:32 AM (#470278 - in reply to #470248)
Subject: Re: Need to install strap lock buttons on my Celebrity guitars


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Location: NY
Thanks folks - I'll take the bolts out and see if they would work with Schaller buttons, otherwise ask Ovation for help with compatible parts.

- wader
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FlySig
Posted 2013-05-09 2:57 PM (#470345 - in reply to #470248)
Subject: Re: Need to install strap lock buttons on my Celebrity guitars



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Posts: 4025

Location: Utah
I just end up with a new strap for each guitar. If your guitar has Dunlop sized bolts, and if the Shallers don't fit, I would just install a Dunlop strap lock system and buy a dedicated strap for that guitar.
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nerdydave
Posted 2013-06-06 1:34 PM (#472295 - in reply to #470248)
Subject: Re: Need to install strap lock buttons on my Celebrity guitars


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Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah
Just use a pitch gauge and determine which bolts you have/need and it all becomes very simple.
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MWoody
Posted 2013-06-06 6:18 PM (#472299 - in reply to #470248)
Subject: Re: Need to install strap lock buttons on my Celebrity guitars



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Location: Upper Left USA
I have taken out the original screws, placed them in a hand drill and turned/filed down the screw head until it fit into the Dunlop straploc.
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sycamore
Posted 2013-10-23 11:23 AM (#478216 - in reply to #470248)
Subject: Re: Need to install strap lock buttons on my Celebrity guitars


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Location: Cork, Ireland
I just replaced originals with schallers, using the schaller screws on Applause AA31 and Pacemaker. Straight swop no problem
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