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martinez
Posted 2012-03-03 4:29 PM (#451364)
Subject: Longneck


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Location: Spain		So let me get this right, a longneck is basically my guitar with two extra frets on the bottom end, presumably then tuned to "D", so in essence I have a guitar, just...longer... so I can then do things that are normally way too high....

Right?

Sick of having to tune a full step down to do Running On Faith, then back up again!
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Darkbar
Posted 2012-03-03 4:43 PM (#451365 - in reply to #451364)
Subject: Re: Longneck



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Location: Flahdaw		You could even put mediums on it and tune it all the way down to B or B#
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stonebobbo
Posted 2012-03-03 5:45 PM (#451369 - in reply to #451364)
Subject: Re: Longneck



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Location: Tennessee		Actually, no on the extra frets ... it's still 14 frets to the neck. The scale length is longer, meaning the measure of bridge to nut, and the frets are proportionally farther apart to maintain intonation. The strings, when tuned down two steps, make the tension essentially the same as standard tuning at the normal scale length.

The rest is correct in terms of playing a tune as usual but it will be two semi-tones lower. Or more if you use different strings and tune lower as darkbar suggests.

You can always put a poor man's baritone together. If you have an extra guitar, just put heavier strings on and tune that one down. Some guitars can sound just fine this way.
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martinez
Posted 2012-03-03 6:02 PM (#451373 - in reply to #451364)
Subject: Re: Longneck


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Location: Spain		Wow confused the hell out of me there mate haha

I tuned my Takamine down a tone today and it sounded really cool, (that's not hard it's the best sounding guitar I've ever owned up until the Elite) , I might just keep that one like that all the time, it's great! (what's the deal about heavier strings, this one sounds amazing and they're only 11s..am I missing something?)

Cheers for the advice !
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2012-03-03 6:32 PM (#451375 - in reply to #451364)
Subject: Re: Longneck


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Location: Hot Springs, S.D.		When you tune down, the lighter strings get floppy. Heavier strings are easy on the fingers when they are tuned down so you won't notice the difference in your fingertips, but you'll notice a big change (for the better) in tone.
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SOBeach
Posted 2012-03-03 6:48 PM (#451377 - in reply to #451369)
Subject: Re: Longneck


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stonebobbo - You can always put a poor man's baritone together. If you have an extra guitar, just put heavier strings on and tune that one down. Some guitars can sound just fine this way.

 Yup, that's what I'm doin' on mine. D tuning,  .013 - .056 (D'Addario EJ17).  No complaints so far.

Wait... "poor man's baritone"?  Yeah well, guess I resemble that remark.


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stephent28
Posted 2012-03-03 7:24 PM (#451380 - in reply to #451377)
Subject: Re: Longneck



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SOBeach -  Wait... "poor man's baritone"?

 

yes, because even though you will get some of the benefits, you will still miss out on the amazing awesome thunderous sound of a true longneck guitar.  While a tuned down guitar will sound good and accomplish the mission, it truly just isn't the same.

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stonebobbo
Posted 2012-03-03 8:04 PM (#451385 - in reply to #451364)
Subject: Re: Longneck



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Location: Tennessee		What Stephen said.
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Waskel
Posted 2012-03-03 9:05 PM (#451389 - in reply to #451364)
Subject: Re: Longneck



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What Bobbo and Stephen said.
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martinez
Posted 2012-03-04 4:35 AM (#451399 - in reply to #451364)
Subject: Re: Longneck


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Location: Spain		Wow interesting stuff thanks! ...another thing to go the list of things I can't afford!! I need three guitars at this rate! 1 for normal, 1 for slide and another for low songs!!
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TAFKAR
Posted 2012-03-04 5:03 AM (#451401 - in reply to #451364)
Subject: Re: Longneck



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Location: Sydney, Australia		I've been babysitting one of these for the last few months and can attest to the sound of it. I put heavy strings (.014" and tune it to D or C. Man that thing can rumble your belly. This is different to tuning a standard guitar down.
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Waskel
Posted 2012-03-04 10:52 AM (#451416 - in reply to #451399)
Subject: Re: Longneck



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martinez - 2012-03-04 2:35 AM

Wow interesting stuff thanks! ...another thing to go the list of things I can't afford!! I need three guitars at this rate! 1 for normal, 1 for slide and another for low songs!!


Trust me... you'll find excuses reasons for more than three.

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martinez
Posted 2012-03-04 2:25 PM (#451420 - in reply to #451364)
Subject: Re: Longneck


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Location: Spain		And are we talking same deal as others...i.e used to be made in USA (good ones) and now made in Korea (cheapo)..? or is it a new idea that's only made in Korea?

just wondering what model numbers to look for...you know, just to look....

Cheers
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stephent28
Posted 2012-03-04 11:51 PM (#451452 - in reply to #451364)
Subject: Re: Longneck



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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066		Well, the best and obviously most expensive would be an Adamas Longneck (special order only) that would either be like the longneck you saw me playing in the Guthrie Video or the 2080D version that I own along with 1 or 2 other members.

Next would be the DS768 which is the original Elite Baritone Longneck.
Then the newer DS778 which was the newest version with I believe a more shallow bowl than the 768.

Anything made overseas would fall into the last category.

Just my opinion and others may differ.
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AdamasW597
Posted 2012-03-08 4:36 PM (#451643 - in reply to #451364)
Subject: Re: Longneck



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Location: Northwest Arkansas		I just tuned my contour bowl down to "D". I have 3 more guitars. I think I'll leave mine that way.
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