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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-06 7:50 PM (#434743)
Subject: Just got a set of these


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and they work great. Really does a great job of fine tuning a guitar. Here
Take a little time with them and it really helps the playability.
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Beal
Posted 2009-01-06 8:18 PM (#434744 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these



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OK, if you say so..............
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Capo Guy
Posted 2009-01-06 8:51 PM (#434745 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these



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Jim,

Which guitar did you try them out on?
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stephent28
Posted 2009-01-06 10:56 PM (#434746 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these



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TJ is this a PT Barnum thread?

Tell us more.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-01-06 11:14 PM (#434747 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these



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Actually those might work better than the hacksaw blade that I used last time.
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FlySig
Posted 2009-01-06 11:15 PM (#434748 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these



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TJ, have you used regular nut slot files before? How do these files compare to regular files? I've been thinking about getting a set of the regular files but the price is too steep. The price on these is livable if they do a good job.
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muzza
Posted 2009-01-06 11:25 PM (#434749 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these



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TJ, tell us more. What did you do? What was the result? What's your level of 'expertise'?

Looks like a good product for part time luthier wannabees like moi. His feedback is very positive.
Originally posted by Beal:
OK, if you say so..............
Beal, you sound less than convinced.
Care to elaborate??
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-01-07 2:09 AM (#434750 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these



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Originally posted by Beal:
OK, if you say so..............
Beal, you sound less than convinced.
Care to elaborate?? [/QB]

He gets his luthier to do it :D
AJ
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-07 5:18 AM (#434751 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these


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I was looking for a set of nut files when I found these. The first guitar I did was the 1680. They work great and come with directions, although most could figure out what your trying to accomplish without them. I never used regular nut files like StewMac's, but these really do work fine. The nice thing about these is the other side of the "file" is a nice straight edge that makes it a breeze to measure nut height off the first fret. (I've found about 4-5thou. first fret clearance under the straight edge bridging between the second fret and the nut slot works great, no buzz at all) Just don't go crazy as just a few thousands really makes a difference in playability. The 1680 took me less than 30 min total, and the difference is really noticeable. I'm going to do all my guitars this week. Definitely worth the $ compared to buying a complete set of nut files for 100.00 or more. The best thing I did, was a little research as far as nut groove angle, and string height on line. Once you get in your mind how it's supposed to work and a few of the mechanics of it, it's really easy to achieve what you want.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-07 5:30 AM (#434752 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these


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Originally posted by muzza:
TJ, tell us more. What did you do? What was the result? What's your level of 'expertise'?

Looks like a good product for part time luthier wannabees like moi. His feedback is very positive.
Originally posted by Beal:
OK, if you say so..............
Beal, you sound less than convinced.
Care to elaborate??
Muzza, as far as my "expertise" I have worked with wood and composites a lot in my life, and have learned from a few mistakes, but this would be a no brainier, as long as the person uses a little discretion when doing it. I was confident enough to use it on my most expensive guitar first, but you might want to try a cheaper one for the first try. The worst that could happen is if you totally screw it up, you could buy a new nut from the factory and install it with a little glue and you'd be back to square one, but in my opinion you would really have to be totally numb to get that far. :rolleyes:
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-01-07 10:59 AM (#434753 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these


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"No brainer" and "fool proof" are my specialties. I should have started the "Idiot's guide" books, but I wasn't smart enough.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-01-07 11:03 AM (#434754 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I should have started the "Idiot's guide" books, but I wasn't smart enough.
But, but, we LOVE authenticity!!!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-01-07 11:09 AM (#434755 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these


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If I ever figure out how to use this foot controller, I will write an idiot's guide. There's already an idiot's guide on the Yahoo group devoted to the thing, but I couldn't understand it. I realize that it's tough to explain something to someone else who doesn't even understand the vocabulary.
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birddog
Posted 2009-01-07 11:45 AM (#434756 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these


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Interesting, I always liked playing around my nuts.

Wally
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-01-07 11:57 AM (#434757 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these
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Originally posted by birddog:
playing
Filing vs. playing... different ball games! :eek:
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-07 12:01 PM (#434758 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these


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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
If I ever figure out how to use this foot controller, I will write an idiot's guide. There's already an idiot's guide on the Yahoo group devoted to the thing, but I couldn't understand it. I realize that it's tough to explain something to someone else who doesn't even understand the vocabulary.
I had a Roger McGuinn video on home computer recording. He claimed that the program he used had a very short and easy learning curve.

Easy for somebody with 40 years experience in a recording studio to say. For the rest of us it's a bit more difficult.....
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-01-07 12:18 PM (#434759 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these


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I'm OK with the mechanical stuff. I could handle filing nuts. I think I need to see what's happening.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-07 12:56 PM (#434760 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these


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It's really amazing what just a couple thousandths off the nut will do for playability. As you work toward the thinner strings, you can get them a little closer. Height always depends on how hard you play. The string just needs enough room to vibrate without touching the frets. That's why there's relief in the fretboard. The string will need more room to vibrate in the center than on the ends (the nut and saddle) so you can get it pretty close on the first fret. I've started doing some setups on friends guitars around here, and like I said, once you understand the mechanics of it, you can really make a difference in the feel of the guitar. I'm not an expert by any means, but every guitar I've done has come away a better player.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-01-07 1:03 PM (#434761 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these



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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I had a Roger McGuinn video on home computer recording. He claimed that the program he used had a very short and easy learning curve.


I had that McGuinn DVD.....absolutely horrible!
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Capo Guy
Posted 2009-01-07 4:56 PM (#434762 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these



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Try them out on a Taylor. :D
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Beal
Posted 2009-01-07 5:23 PM (#434763 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these



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I can't say that I've ever bought a guitar with high nut action, so that's why the "So what".

I've got a full set of nut files, several in fact and use them when making new nuts or working on National saddles. Great tools to have
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-01-07 6:54 PM (#434764 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these



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I dunno.

The idea of shaving the action on my nuts creeps me out, just a little.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-07 7:29 PM (#434765 - in reply to #434743)
Subject: Re: Just got a set of these


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Phil, nut, not nuts. :D
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