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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-10 9:07 PM (#434037)
Subject: AAA vs. AA


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Have you ever wondered about the difference between AAA spruce and AA spruce? Here's a photo of my rebuilt 1117 (yeah, I know ..... the label's probably gonna come out) and my GC RI. Both guitars that are on my "gonna keep no matter what" list (7 guitars -- 2 12's, 4 steel 6's, and a nylon). I was just taking a pic 'cause they look cool together. I was surprised in seeing the pics at the difference in the wood tops.

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Jeff W.
Posted 2009-01-10 9:22 PM (#434038 - in reply to #434037)
Subject: Re: AAA vs. AA


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pics are deceiving.

is the difference THAT obvious in real life?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-10 9:49 PM (#434039 - in reply to #434037)
Subject: Re: AAA vs. AA


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Interesting observation. No, they are not that pronounced. I was flat out amazed when I saw the pics. But you can see the differences in real life, just not that much.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-10 9:57 PM (#434040 - in reply to #434037)
Subject: Re: AAA vs. AA


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Interesting observation. No, they are not that pronounced. I was flat out amazed when I saw the pics. But you can see the differences in real life, just not that much.
The other thing you can see in that pic is 2 1/2 years of aging and coloring......
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-01-10 10:21 PM (#434041 - in reply to #434037)
Subject: Re: AAA vs. AA



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Nice, Paul ... you got your custom rebuild back. SWEET! Gotta play it on Thursday night ... I'll drive it hard and loosen that baby up for you. ;)

I love the braz 5 point. Nice touch. So ... are you happy or are you just gonna string it Nashville again? :cool:

Seriously, this is a real cool project. Can't wait to see it.
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Beal
Posted 2009-01-10 10:40 PM (#434042 - in reply to #434037)
Subject: Re: AAA vs. AA



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The difference between AAA and AA. It depends on what day it is and if it's before or after lunch. At least it used to back in the good old days.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-01-11 1:35 AM (#434043 - in reply to #434037)
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In my family, AA was indicated if before lunch, but after lunch it was anything goes.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-01-11 2:53 AM (#434044 - in reply to #434037)
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One is Towing Insurance, the other is a 12-Step Program... Uh, Duh?
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muzza
Posted 2009-01-11 4:32 AM (#434045 - in reply to #434037)
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Interesting smiley, OMA.

Moody, which one is AAA?
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-11 5:43 AM (#434046 - in reply to #434037)
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Maybe OMA needs a 12 step smiley program.... :D


Originally posted by Beal:
The difference between AAA and AA. It depends on what day it is and if it's before or after lunch. At least it used to back in the good old days.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm sure it's all subjective, and depending on if their football team won that weekend, they had a fight with the wife, or had a little too much "libation" the night before, (or at lunch), the grades could vary quite a bit.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-01-11 5:53 AM (#434047 - in reply to #434037)
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AAA was the best they had at That Moment...

'nuff said! :p
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seesquare
Posted 2009-01-11 9:57 AM (#434048 - in reply to #434037)
Subject: Re: AAA vs. AA


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Notice that the wood grain is evenly spaced and runs vertically. These attributes are used in the grading of tops.
Master Grade is awarded to one in a hundred (or more) tops (very rare). Master Grade is the best of the best.
AAA is the second highest awarded for stiffness across the top, straight grain, quarter sawn, even color and consistent annular ring spacing.
AA is given for slightly wider and/or inconsistent ring spacing or mild color variations.
A is given for lack of stiffness, inconsistent ring spacing with visible cosmetic flaws.
Your rebuilt 1117 may have more "silk" in the appearance, but doesn't necessarily make it a better soundboard.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-11 10:27 AM (#434049 - in reply to #434037)
Subject: Re: AAA vs. AA


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Time will tell what the better soundboard is, but even then, with 2 different bowl depth, it would be hard to determine how much difference the soundboard will make.

I was more commenting on the difference in appearance.....
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Beal
Posted 2009-01-11 11:45 AM (#434050 - in reply to #434037)
Subject: Re: AAA vs. AA



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The qualitly standards at Ovation never changed.

They'd just vary from day to day.
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Beal
Posted 2009-01-11 11:46 AM (#434051 - in reply to #434037)
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Love the clock Moody, is that the one I sent to you? All for Cliff's sake I'm sure.
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cliff
Posted 2009-01-11 11:53 AM (#434052 - in reply to #434037)
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Fairly Unimaginative (but that's t'be expected).
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sligoman
Posted 2009-01-11 1:26 PM (#434053 - in reply to #434037)
Subject: Re: AAA vs. AA


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The 1117 seems the prettier of the two. My N769 is supposed to have AAAA. Doesn't sound any better than the N768, just a little different. Same with the 87C. All great sounding instruments.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-11 2:59 PM (#434054 - in reply to #434037)
Subject: Re: AAA vs. AA


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Originally posted by Beal:
Love the clock Moody, is that the one I sent to you? All for Cliff's sake I'm sure.
Yes and yes.....
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MWoody
Posted 2009-01-11 8:18 PM (#434055 - in reply to #434037)
Subject: Re: AAA vs. AA



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In Youth athletics AAA means the parents have no life.
In Working dog Athletics (Tavern Leagues) it means Dad doesn't have any sick leave left!

In batteries it means you always have the wrong size.
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-01-11 11:40 PM (#434056 - in reply to #434037)
Subject: Re: AAA vs. AA



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Originally posted by Beal:
The qualitly standards at Ovation never changed.
They'd just vary from day to day.
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