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Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!

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dweezil
Posted 2009-01-15 6:44 AM (#433509)
Subject: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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Hi,

just thought I'd share this post from Adrian Legg from the Acoustic Magazine forum...

Long term, if you use it as a fundamental part of your technique, there is a strong possibility that it can cause a repetitive strain injury - which is why it's not acceptable these days in classical. It works a lot better -long term- if you can anchor from where your arm rests naturally on the guitar, just dropping your palm if you need damping. If you take a look at how much tension locating/resting with your pinky introduces to your right hand, the injury possibility becomes clearer.
I've been lightly resting my pinky for years as it really helped with stability but having just read that (and freaked out about getting RSI) I've just tried NOT resting the pinky. Obviously my technique has improved since I started as it feels pretty good without resting it so I'll be unlearning this potentially damaging technique from now on! Also it frees up another finger - woo-hoo!
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-15 6:55 AM (#433510 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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I never could get the hang of resting the pinky on the top while fingerpicking. Of course, as I've stated many times before, I only dabble in this guitar thing.
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BT717
Posted 2009-01-15 7:00 AM (#433511 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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I was told 4-5 years ago it wasn't good, so I have stopped doing it.
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dweezil
Posted 2009-01-15 7:04 AM (#433512 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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I reckon it'll take a little while to fully adjust, but it'll be a worth while investment methimks
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-01-15 7:09 AM (#433513 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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When I took lessons some 20+ years ago (man am I old) my instructor who was teaching me the travis picking method insisted that I NOT rest my pinky. Bad form he said. He did not mention injury but I think he did talk about proper classical technique. I alway notice a player resting his/her pinky. Just one of those things that stick in my mind. As Dweezil said it frees up not only your pinky but you whole hand if you want to improvise or change the rhythm, you can almost adapt a strumming motion while picking. I don't know if this is possible whilst achoring the pinky as I have never tried since then.

I just wish I could get used to using a pick. I need to learn some techinque there I suppose :)
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2009-01-15 7:16 AM (#433514 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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...nearly ALL of the better banjo players "plant" at least the "pinky" while playing (sometimes pinky/ring):




.....but, then again, they are banjo players. :rolleyes:
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G8r
Posted 2009-01-15 7:47 AM (#433515 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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I only started trying to play fingerstyle a couple years ago. It just didn't feel right to plant my pinkie.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-01-15 8:10 AM (#433516 - in reply to #433509)
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Originally posted by twistedlim:
I just wish I could get used to using a pick.
I quit trying until someone can give some hints my fingers can heed.
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2009-01-15 8:28 AM (#433517 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!



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Iffy, get TRboy to show you his hybrid pick/fingerstyle technique.

I have only been attempting fingerstyle for a short while now. What technique I have I learned from workshoplive.com and none of their instructors ever mentioned planting the pinky.
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lanaki
Posted 2009-01-15 9:09 AM (#433518 - in reply to #433509)
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my pinky has been a pick guard potato for years.

i usually only lift it when i am doing a percussive downstroke stroke in conjunction with my ring finger.
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BT717
Posted 2009-01-15 9:27 AM (#433519 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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O.T. here.

Iffy, I just noticed your sig line. Thanks!!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-15 10:38 AM (#433520 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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Chet Atkins always rested his pinky on the top or p/g of his guitar unless he needed it to pluck a string. Didn't seem to hurt him......
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dweezil
Posted 2009-01-15 10:42 AM (#433521 - in reply to #433509)
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He's dead now right?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-01-15 10:52 AM (#433522 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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If banjo players do it, it must be wrong. In one of the few lesson books I read, it said not to, so I haven't for 30 years or so. I also use all 5 fingers on a couple songs. Try some exercises where you hit the thumb, roll through 4 fingers and back a few times. Then do the thumb and pluck 4 at the same time then back to the thumb. Those will get you using your pinky for something other than a place holder.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-01-15 11:02 AM (#433523 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!
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Originally posted by dweezil:
He's dead now right?
Yes and will remain so for the time being; but not due to his pinky... :rolleyes:
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dweezil
Posted 2009-01-15 11:10 AM (#433524 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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Can you be sure?
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MWoody
Posted 2009-01-15 11:17 AM (#433525 - in reply to #433509)
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This newsfash is just in....

General Valicio Franko... is still dead.
Update at 11:00!

Doc Watson and I both plant the pinky. He's blind and I don't listen but like, whatever.
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dweezil
Posted 2009-01-15 11:23 AM (#433526 - in reply to #433509)
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:)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-15 11:30 AM (#433527 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by dweezil:
He's dead now right?
Yes and will remain so for the time being; but not due to his pinky... :rolleyes:
Who knows how far Atkins would have gone as a guitar player if he hadn't planted his pinky......
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-01-15 11:52 AM (#433528 - in reply to #433509)
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Attention banjo players: five strings, five fingers.
Coincidence? I think not.
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Designzilla
Posted 2009-01-15 12:16 PM (#433529 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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Planting the pinkie is one of those "bad" habits I've had for decades. I've tried to unlearn it several times with no luck. I asked Matt Smith last year at Amelia if this was bad technique and he said not to worry about it.
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dobro
Posted 2009-01-15 12:31 PM (#433530 - in reply to #433509)
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I rely on the 'pinky anchor' while flatpicking, but I have learned to hybrid fingerstyle without resting (pick=thumb plus the other three). My only gripe is that the extra finger, in my case, generates some noise on the guitar top! Especially with an Adamas (I've installed a clear plastic pickguard to help).
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dweezil
Posted 2009-01-15 12:36 PM (#433531 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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Although I won't/don't play enough for it to cause me a problem I do think that it might be better not to rest it. That's not to say it's bad or wrong, I just think FOR ME AT LEAST it is something worth tackling as it MAY help in the future.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-01-15 1:04 PM (#433532 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!



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Originally posted by dobro:
My only gripe is that the extra finger, in my case, generates some noise on the guitar top! Especially with an Adamas (I've installed a clear plastic pickguard to help).
It'll make noise on a textured T top also...

Generally I just lay my forearm on the body edge, and that is where my hand goes...

(Unfortunately that technique puts my hand around the 24th fret on a Viper, but I still do it.)
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-01-15 1:04 PM (#433533 - in reply to #433509)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle : Resting the pinky!


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On some songs I only use two fingers and the thumb. I usually rest my ring finger on those songs. On some songs I use three fingers and thumb. Sometimes I rest my pinkie, sometimes I don't. On some songs I use four fingers and the thumb. Nothing rests. I never use a pick, but when I play rythum guitar for the bluegrass stuff I play, both my ring finger and pinkie rest on the pickguard while my thumbnail does the work. But they are not so much planted there as lightly touching.
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