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Location: Phoenix AZ | Anyone else experience this ...
For years and years we've all heard the complaint of non ovation players that they don't like them "becuase they slide off your knee". And we all poo-poo it saying stuff like - I've been playing Ovations for 20 years and NEVER had one slip" ...
Well THAT's just the point. For decades I played nothing but Ovations and they never ever slipped off my knee. But for the most part over the last few years I've been playing other guitars and really don't play my Ovations much and have sold a lot of them off. So the last few days I've just picked up a few to play and Wooops, there they go slipping right off my knee. I swear I'm holding the guitars always the same, but appearently not. There must be some subtle way of holding an Ovation that becoems second nature to us, and over the last years it's worn off for me. Maybe just a mm here or there, but it's really obvious.
Once I was aware of it, no problem holding an O was no problem again. But at first attempt, being "out of practice" it slipped like crazy. Not that it matters, but I can symphesize with people trying an Ovation for the first time. It is different and it does slip. Not to us who play them all the time, but to a newbie yes.
Anyone else who bounces from wooden guitars to Ovations experience this ???
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Location: Location Location Location | a little gorilla snot ought to take care of that. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Can't say that I have noticed it but to be truthful it seems lately I play the wood boxes sitting down on a chair/stool while with the O's I tend to either stand with the strap or slouch down on the couch. |
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| I've noticed it on occasion, but I haven't played one type over the other for an extended period. I try to play a different one every day so they don't get stale. |
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Location: Citizen of the Galaxy | I thought I was the only one with this problem on the board. I've watched the board for a while and thought I'd jump in. Ovations do slide but if you want to play them, you learn to live with it. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | TANSTAAFL - Citizen of the Galaxy
Welcome to the board and are you related to
Jeff W - Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bubble·OrionArm·MilkyWay... |
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| Welcome - Heinlein was always a favorite. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | How big did your gut get when you were recovering from your Achilles tendon surgery? Maybe it's pushing the guitars of your knee. Mine still sit up on my thigh, but I don't have any wood backs. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Yeah, now y'all got me skeered...
I've been playing them contour-fat-people-bowl guitars for awhile, and now I bought a real deep bowl.
But the contour-bowls have caused me to hold all my guitars more vertical.
[and I do own Straps!] |
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Location: Citizen of the Galaxy | Thanks for the welcome.
And vertical is always better when holding guitars, no matter the make. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | I always tell beginners to hold the guitar vertical.
Then I watched an Eric Bibb DVD... |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Normal Ovations aren't that bad. Now, try a shiny bowl....that's like trying to hold a greased pig. I put a small strip of non-skid on the lower waist of mine just to keep it in place. |
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Location: Alagoas, Brazil | I´ve been slowly adapting to mine and it does not slip anymore. Even so, I use a strap at all times, because it would hurt a lot to let it fall to the floor. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
How big did your gut get when you were recovering from your Achilles tendon surgery? You may have identifed the root cause. Dang it. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Never an issue... even with my shiny bowls. If anything, I find the woodbacks are slightly uncomfortable for my right arm. |
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Location: East Tennessee | I seem to have more of a problem when I'm standing.
Been thinking of changing the strap button below the neck. My Country Artist is like that and I don't have a problem but on my Pacemaker I do. |
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| Originally posted by Gallerinski:
There must be some subtle way of holding an Ovation that becoems second nature to us...
Anyone else who bounces from wooden guitars to Ovations experience this ???
Must be second nature because mine doesn't slip and that little silicone rubber knee pad from the factory fell off in or about 1976.
I switch back and forth a lot because the Ovation is in E flat - no issues when I go to the woodbox - just feels different for a minute or so.
Maybe my gut isn't big enough but I don't have any problems playing the Ovation with a strap either. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | In a sitting position, one knee elevated so that the thigh is at a 90 degree angle to the torso cures the problem. So does a strap. |
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Location: Michigan | At first I was pretty concious of it and had to focus on it. Found that a piece of those grip like foam shelf liners work pretty good and kepta piece in the case to just throw over my leg.
This was of course with the guitar resting on the right leg.
Then I had to mess with that by getting some instruction from someone that insisted I play in the "classical positon" with the guitar on the left knee.
His basis was it hold the guitar more natural to the standing position. Then this was alot harder & slippage was more of a problem.
Now its mostly with the strap on even when sitting.
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Location: Upper Left USA | "and over the last years it's worn off for me."
You are infected with GWBCS, generic wood box complacency syndrome. It occurs when you play "normal" guitars like the rest of the world.
Other symptoms may include a wanting to wear more subdued colors and getting home on time to watch Mattlock!
Just quit leaning on the guitar!!! |
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| Originally posted by MWoody:
getting home on time to watch Mattlock!
What time is it on? |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
If anything, I find the woodbacks are slightly uncomfortable for my right arm. Exactly my issue. Sure, the roundbacks have a tendency to roll or slip, but awareness of playing position makes holding them second nature. As is the reflex to pull it back into place without missing a beat when it does slide a little.
But try as I might, I can't seem to find a comfortable position playing a wood box where my right hand doesn't take a nap after a short time. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | You guys having problems with the wood boxes need to try the OMs size or smaller instead of Dreads. They are much more comfortable to hold and play and for me feel the same as an "O".
Jeffy, did you have trouble with the Tak EF417? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | No. It's the Jumbos and Dreads. I've got no issues with my swallower body O style Resonator either. |
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Yes they DO slide off your knee ...
