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Location: GA USA | GNATL called me this morning and we took a trip to Calhoun GA to buy this 1597. Price was $400 for a well used guitar. It's going to need some clean up for sure, but it plays well and sounds good. The only thing that really concerns me is the bridge, which is slightly lifted, more so on the bass side. Enough to slide a pick under, but it appears stable and stays in tune very well. How much of a problem is that going to be?
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Location: Cincinnati | Nice find! Is it yours or GNATL's? |
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Location: GA USA | Both! we splurged and went $200 each. We'll figure that out later. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Captain_Lovehandles:
The only thing that really concerns me is the bridge, which is slightly lifted, more so on the bass side. Enough to slide a pick under, but it appears stable and stays in tune very well. How much of a problem is that going to be?  |
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Location: East Tennessee | Nice find. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Sweet snag! Luv that color...  |
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Location: South of most, North of few | I guess he can strum and you can do the neck work from the picture.... :D |
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Location: Georgia | Fun trip. Listened to the Bobbo Cd twice it was awesome. Capt'ns half of the 1597 needs a lot of cleaning and TLC. My half is in great shape. There is a ton of gunk on the neck that mineral oil isn't touching. Does anyone have any suggestions for cleaning it?
OMA is the crazy glue suggestion serious, I'm a rookie and willing to believe anything.
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Jas, "outies"...
Nice get.
Was a case included? |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | Gunk on the neck...or on the fingerboard? If it's on the neck...and if it's an oiled neck...the mineral oil will do. Apply a generous amount to the wood, then rub gently with oooo steel wool going WITH the grain. You can do this to the fingerboard, too...gently AGAINST the grain. Dig in a little with your fingernail behind it where the frets and the wood meet.
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BTW, I prefer Dunlop 65 fingerboard oil for this. It's got lemon oil in it and it smells really good while you're working with it. |
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Location: GA USA | Thanks. There is a generous amount of gunk on the neck AND fingerboard, and everywhere else you can find. Case was included- rusty, cracked and stinky but otherwise in perfect shape. |
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Location: big island | i've seen that pose before, but it was two smilin' southern boys holdin' a big ol' catfish. nice catch, fellas. |
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Location: Georgia | A big ol' catfish would be a lot easier to clean then this thing! Headway is being made on the neck with 0000 steel wool and mineral oil though. Great suggestion.
Biggest concern is still the slight lifting of the bridge in the back.
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Location: GA USA | By the way, we're gonna need a set of gold tuners. These are pitted and need replacing. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Captain_Lovehandles:
a set of gold tuners Jas, do ya have a pic of the back of the head stock? |
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Location: Cincinnati | Originally posted by Captain_Lovehandles:
By the way, we're gonna need a set of gold tuners. These are pitted and need replacing. You need the complete tuners or just the buttons? The original buttons are in the 1581 case. You can charge GNATL for 3 of them. :D |
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Location: GA USA | We can get a pic. But the whole tuner is needed. This is going to be a good playing guitar, but right now anything metal is rusted and corroded, and it's covered all over with a layer of grime. We think of it as a rescue.
It was well-played and poorly taken care of. We want to switch that around and make it well taken care of and played poorly.
It's not going to be a showpiece, so personally I'm not opposed to replacing the buttons and tuners with silver or even black.
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Location: Upper Left USA | Pitted Tuners I got!
Is there any hope for these?
Also have some good buttons. I really do like the Ivoroids on just about anything.
New from Mother or from Alpep.
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Location: Georgia | Originally posted by Captain_Lovehandles:
Thanks. There is a generous amount of gunk on the neck AND fingerboard, and everywhere else you can find. Case was included- rusty, cracked and stinky but otherwise in perfect shape. I wasn't sure if Jas was refering to me or the guitar.
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Location: GA USA | No, I was referring to the case, or I'd have said a crusty, stinky crackhead.
Brace yourself:
Moody, all yours look great by comparison. I imagine we'd not mind spending a little on new looking ones. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Jas,
How 'bout these for $37 shipped USPS Priority?
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Location: GA USA | Sold! Thanks, Iffy.
Now for the more worrysome bridge problem. The below shows that you can slide a pick under the bridge, more toward the bass side than the treble. This is the issue that will determine whether the guitar is a keeper or not. We're not as worried about beauty, but would like to have it to play if the bridge is secure.
OMA says Crazy Glue. That would be great. The bow under the bridge is very slight.
Insight and words of caution would be helpful.
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Uh... I think that I was Joking.
Although Stew-Mac thinks that Crazy Glue will fix anything, I would wait for verification from one of the folks that really know what they are doing.
If cyano-whatever glue turns-out to be the best choice, they have some that is really thin, that takes 10 to 20 minutes to set.
That would give you the chance to apply it under the bridge, then wipe any excess off of the top before it hardens. Then you can hold it down for the duration of a sit-com...
or the full version of "Echoes" or "Alice's Restaurant" :D |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | You might not need to hold it down if the bridge drops down when the strings are loose, just put the glue in then loosen the strings.
Nice catch guys. What is the gunk on the guitar anyway, is it like the crap you get on the inside of a car windscreen? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | If it were a wood top I say inject a syringe of Hide glue and clamp it overnight.
Gorilla Glue is expansive and may make it worse.
Epoxy is good but permanent.
I think you should call Kim or John and ask which product they use. |
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