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The quest for "Legg Tone" nears it's end!
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dweezil |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2336 Location: Brighty in Blighty | As I'm sure some of you are aware I am a Legg head and love listening to and playing his lovely tunes. He is the reason why I play Ovations/Adamas guitars (yes I know he doesn't play them anymore). Anyhow I've been on a tone quest to try and get close to his sound for when I play his pieces. After a lot of research, head scratching, deads ends, equipment tests and frustration I think I have come up with something that is close to the sort of tone he gets of some of his tunes. No it's not 100% but a very good starting point for me. Yes I should find my own voice/tone and yes I am, but this is about trying to enjoy playing his pieces with his general sound. It's not a perfect rendition or complete, it's a tone test. The tune is Nail Talk. Anyhow for those interested check it out here: http://www.boiledsweets.com/tunes/nailtalktest1.mp3 I'll be recording the full piece in the fullness of time. For those interested in what I used... Ovation 2007 Collector with Elixir nanoweb 11s into a Zoom A2.1U with a little compression and bright slap reverb then USB'd into the PC. Normalised and MP3 encoded. I think I've been trying to overcomplicate the problem, less is more. As an aside to this I've realised that the real answer is to record and play with a dry sound and get the performance and technique 200% down and polished. Then add processing accordingly. I beleive I can attain the same level as the professional fingerstylists, all it takes is dedication, practise, time ( oh and a load of guitars ;) ) Still I'm happy, I'm in it for the long haul :) Thanks to RDA08 for the encouragement and inspiration. | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Adrian always used real light strings and had a plain G. I found his tone over the years to get more and more bright and brittle. | ||
dweezil |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2336 Location: Brighty in Blighty | Yup, he typically used 10s, in fact these days he uses 9s but then he is using a guitar more like an electric. His tone probably got brighter and brighter as his ears got older! | ||
G8r |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | Very nice rendition, dweez! | ||
Trader Jim |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307 Location: South of most, North of few | I feel like such a hack now. Great job Dweez! | ||
numbfingers |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1111 Location: NW Washington State | Sounds good. Now don't you need the Keith tuners so you can retune on the fly? I like to see you buy more and more gear. :) -Steve W. | ||
2ifbyC |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268 Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Very well done, Dweez! | ||
dobro |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | Very pretty and nicely executed. I don't know the tune, but you must have done it justice... some cool transitions and chordal "colors". I also like the reverb on this one; not overdone. | ||
Mitzdawg |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 766 Location: New Hampsha | Dweez, Nice job! Same tone as a lot of Legg's stuff - Sounds just like "Chicken Little's last Ride. | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | I think Mr Legg is an incredible musician, but regardless of whatever guitar he uses, I've always despised his live and recorded tone. Go figure. | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Ah, Professor Templeman finishes my post for me. Thank You. Adrian is great, I love the guy. His initial tone was nice, could have been fatter. Didn't care for the direction it went in. Got to love his chops though. That's what's important. | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | Gordon Giltrap had a similar acoustic tone, as well . . . | ||
dweezil |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2336 Location: Brighty in Blighty | One man’s hawk is another man’s dove, one man’s hug is another man’s shove One man’s rock is another man’s sand, one man’s fist is another man’s hand One man’s tool is another man’s toy, one man grief is another man’s joy One man’s squawk is another man’s sing, one man’s crutch is another man’s wing One man’s pride is another man’s humble, one man’s step is another man’s stumble One man’s pleasure is another man’s pain, one man’s loss is another man’s gain One man’s can is another man’s grail, one man’s curse is another man’s sail One man’s right is another man’s wrong, one man’s curse is another man’s song For every father’s daughter For every mother’s son The only think the same Is that is ain’t for everyone Hank Williams said it best He said it a long time ago "Unless you have made no mistakes in your life Be careful of stones that you throw" One man’s deuce is another man’s ace, one man’s back is another man’s face One man’s reason is another man’s rhyme, one man’s dollar is another man’s dime One man’s tree is another man’s post, one man’s angel is another man’s ghost One man’s rain is another man’s drought, one man’s hope is another man’s doubt One man’s false is another man’s fair, one man’s toup is another man’s hair One man’s hand is another man’s stub, one man’s feast is another man’s grub One man’s dread is another man’s dream, one man’s sigh is another man’s scream One man’s water is another man’s wine, one man’s daughter leave another man’s cryin One man’s famine is another man’s feast, one man’s pet is another man’s beast One man’s bat is another man’s ball, one man’s art is another man’s scrawl One man’s friend is another man’s foe, one man’s Joesph is another man’s Joe One man’s hammer is another man’s nail, one man’s freedom is another man’s jail One man’s road is another man’s rut, one man’s if is another man’s but One man’s treasure is another man’s trash, one man’s landin is another man’s crash One man’s word is another man’s lie, one man’s dirt is another man’s sky One man’s skin is another man’s color, one man’s killer is another man’s brother | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | Originally posted by cliff: Giltrap played Ovation's early in his career, Folklores and Pacemakers mostly, though I seem to remember the big hit being on a Deacon 12. Later Yamaha, then when my ex-business partner was distributing K Yairi over here he produced a limited run Yairi GG signature model. Lately he's been using Fylde and most recently the synthetic/polymer Cool Acoustics. Apparently he's had carpel tunnel problems or something similar, and his strings have been getting very light. His Fyldes were designed for ultra-light strings. Maybe that's why I don't like his tone either. Nice player though.Gordon Giltrap had a similar acoustic tone, as well . . . | ||
dobro |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | Made me think of Paul Simon's "One Man's Ceiling is Another Man's Floor" | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | One Man's Pet Is Whitehead's "Date". . . | ||
cholloway |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 2791 Location: Atlanta, GA. | You're BAAAAAAd! | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Great tune Dweezil, Got one with Restoration in it? That's the topic this week | ||
dweezil |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2336 Location: Brighty in Blighty | uh? | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by cliff: Tell Bugsy, I said, "Hey-There "One Man's Pet Is Whitehead's "Date". . . | ||
stephent28 |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I got a big carrot for you Jeffy! | ||
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