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BT717
Posted 2009-01-28 8:56 AM (#431329)
Subject: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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Maybe this has been asked before ,but, not since I've been around.
I am curious what YOU prefer and why. Round sound hole or Epaulets? This is not a bash one or the other as I am aware some do not like one or the other for personal reasons. Just tell us what you like.
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BT717
Posted 2009-01-28 9:00 AM (#431330 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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Ok, I have played all 3 and personally I really love the double epaulet style. I own 2 my 1778lx and my 1758 12 string. They both ,atleast to my ears, have a better, more rounded tone and a lot more volume. I also "feel" the sound vibration on my body much more then the round sound hole. Not sure what that means. but, that's my preference.
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-01-28 9:10 AM (#431331 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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I've never played the single epaulet style other than the 1778T, so between the double epaulet style and center hole, I prefer the center hole.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-01-28 9:10 AM (#431332 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet
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Need to distinguish between wooden tops and adamas tops. On adamas tops the multi holes work great. They look completely gay, but sound great. But on wood topped guitars I have never ever heard a multi hole guitar that sounded any good to my ears. 1537 was the best of them but even that leaves me unimpressed compared to wooden top guitars with center soundholes. Others will disagree. Toby
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2009-01-28 9:56 AM (#431333 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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I agree with Dave, I prefer centre holes on wood-tops.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-28 10:15 AM (#431334 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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This is something I've been asking myself since I got my rebuilt Legend back. Which do I prefer, the Legend or the 87C? Both sound good, just different. Martin and other companies get different sounds from different size/shape/braced bodies. With Ovation, it's different bracing/body depth/soundholes. The different sounds produced are, well, just different.

And there are different guitars for different situations. The 87C has big cajons for jams or for being plugged in (love the onboard tuner). The Legend is great alone or with just a few other guitars. But lately, I've been playing the GC RI a lot. After 2 1/2 years, the top is opening up nicely, with the saddle raised it rings, and it's comfortable. Doesn't have huge volume so it doesn't get taken to big jams, but it's great by itself or in small groups.

Different guitars, different sounds. Ice cream....
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Waskel
Posted 2009-01-28 10:22 AM (#431335 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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Your 87C has a tuner? Did you upgrade the preamp when you sent it in for repairs from "The Fall"?
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Patch
Posted 2009-01-28 10:25 AM (#431336 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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I couldn't vote. I like'em all. As Moody says, to me they sound different, not better or worse, and for me, that's the real reason for owning (and appreciating) multiple guitars. I've gotten to the point that sometimes I just want to hear the specific tone from my (fill in the blank). So I get the specific instrument I'm looking for from its case. I might also add that so far, I have not noticed a preference for any single guitar that condemns the others to lengthy stays in their cases. I play all of them about the same. It's about as close as I get to "guitar contentment".
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-28 10:34 AM (#431337 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Your 87C has a tuner? Did you upgrade the preamp when you sent it in for repairs from "The Fall"?
OP Pro.....
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v74
Posted 2009-01-28 10:45 AM (#431338 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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I prefer Epaulet either single or duble because it's the "Ovation".

for me
Single for the cutaway
Duble for non-cutaway

eventhough I realzie that the centre-round sound hole on wood top gives loudest, resonant but the epaulet is the most important feature and design that make me love Ovation.
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-01-28 10:46 AM (#431339 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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Although I wanted to see the results, I didn't vote. I didn't want to screw up the numbers.

In my experience..
For wood-tops, 9 times out of 10, single center hole.
For an Adamas top, multi-hole only.

There have been some single center hole Adamai made. They are not very well thought of.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-01-28 10:58 AM (#431340 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
OP Pro.....
That's right, they had to replace the bowl. I'd love to have an OP Pro on mine, but wouldn't want to go to that extreme...
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scooterboy
Posted 2009-01-28 11:08 AM (#431341 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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In order of preference:

Single epaulet
Double epaulet
Center hole

Why? Harder to lose the pick inside... :D


Seriously though, I love the epaulet look and prefer asymmetry over symmetry.

Sound? They all sound great!
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wilblee
Posted 2009-01-28 11:29 AM (#431342 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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What scooterboy said.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-01-28 12:12 PM (#431343 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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+1 with Sccoterboy. Could just be my rig, but the center holes seem more prone to feedback.
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-01-28 12:15 PM (#431344 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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The only Ovation I've ever had feedback problems with is my UTE. It's a feedback machine.
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stellarjim
Posted 2009-01-28 12:33 PM (#431345 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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Looks like 2/3 of our members prefer the Epaulets. I prefer them as well but much of my preference is visual. I enjoy people asking me what kind of guitar is that? My 07 Collectors wood top sounds fabulous as does my 12 String Adamas. That's not to say I don't love my FD 1614 because it will hold it's own without problems.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-01-28 12:44 PM (#431346 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet
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Not surprising that most ovation fans prefer epaulets. Folks that prefer center holes probably buy Martins, Takamines, and Collings.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2009-01-28 12:46 PM (#431347 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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Center hole.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-28 12:55 PM (#431348 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Not surprising that most ovation fans prefer epaulets. Folks that prefer center holes probably buy Martins, Takamines, and Collings.
We talking about anybody in particular?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-01-28 1:14 PM (#431349 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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Epaulets Look Cool!

Single-hole sounds better to the person who is Playing...

I chose single epaulet cuz of all my T's... (most of which have No epaulets except the Sweet-T)
But I came to the realization that most of my guitars are center-hole

Go figger... :p
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G8r
Posted 2009-01-28 1:16 PM (#431350 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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Can't say I prefer one over the other - depends on the song/style of play. That's why I have so many of each :D
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Waskel
Posted 2009-01-28 1:55 PM (#431351 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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I have 4 multi-hole and 2 center-hole. Oh, and one with an oval hole a little off center ( ;) ).

It just worked out that most of the models I actively sought out (1581, 87C, DS768) happened to be multi-hole. If they were center hole and sounded like they do I wouldn't care.
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dobro
Posted 2009-01-28 2:03 PM (#431352 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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I agree with Dave: You need to specify the top first. Otherwise it's apples and oranges. Play an Adams side-by-side with a wood top!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-01-28 2:24 PM (#431353 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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I like the traditional Ovation sound. Although I doubt I ever part with the 1537 or an 87C, I prefer the centerhole sound of the 04, Folklore or the Balladeer Reissue.
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