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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-01-28 2:38 PM (#431354 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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I make the choice depending on who's listening.

If I'm just listening to me, then yes the round-hole sounds "better" to the player. However by design, the epaulet models project further forward.

This is in the archive someplace, but Al and I did a test back when I bought my Redwood top model. We compared the center vs epaulet. Both sounded great, but the center-hole sounded better to the "player" while the epaulet model sounded better to the "listener."

I think this was the best example to use as we tried at least a couple of each model, and the result was the same.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-01-28 2:51 PM (#431355 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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Really a difficult question as I like them all...different guitars sound different...Round hole sounds great on the earlier guitars and for 10 years was on both of my gigging guitars and is on my daughters 82C...Double Epi's are really nice as the Elites changed so much for me and remains my go to guitars today...But the 08 Collector has the single and sounds great...absolutely one of my favorite guitars...
Whatever floats yer boat, I guess...
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Dude
Posted 2009-01-28 2:59 PM (#431356 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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Due to my poor vision, I prefer one big hole rather than several small ones !
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-28 3:06 PM (#431357 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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they all sound the same to me...
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Patch
Posted 2009-01-28 3:11 PM (#431358 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent
Originally posted by Trader Jim:
they all sound the same to me...
They all sell the same to you too.... :p
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-28 3:26 PM (#431359 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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not you too, how did they get to you Patch? Do they have one of your guitars hostage?
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Patch
Posted 2009-01-28 4:31 PM (#431360 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
not you too, how did they get to you Patch? Do they have one of your guitars hostage?
Nah, it's just that, now that I can no longer partake (in my own humble way) in the time honored and noble trading tradition you so ably espouse, I find myself reduced to occasional flippant pop-offs (not the hand signal) directed at those who continue to play the game. Kind of like the spectator telling the QB how he should be playing.

The financial realities of modern life have sequestered me on the side lines for the foreseeable future. Which wouldn't be so bad if my #1 wish guitar wasn't on eBay right now! That center-hole 2001 Collector's wouldn't go anywhere but here if I could swing it, but alas, I have no bat.

Someone here buy it so I can live vicariously through you!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-01-28 4:48 PM (#431361 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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As I discovered a long time ago...

You won't be dropping your pick into an Epaulet, unless you try real hard.
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Patch
Posted 2009-01-28 4:59 PM (#431362 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet



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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
As I discovered a long time ago...

You won't be dropping your pick into an Epaulet, unless you try real hard.
My toddler makes it look easy. :rolleyes:
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jotele
Posted 2009-01-28 5:10 PM (#431363 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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I prefer the round hole,because it is much louder when played non-electric. I play '83 collectors(3) and keep a rubber plug in the hole for electric,but when I play just acoustic and take it out,the sound is loud and full.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-01-28 6:34 PM (#431364 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast
Off hand preferences:

Round hole
Single eppy
Dual eppies

But it really depends on the guitar...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-28 7:22 PM (#431365 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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The other evening I played my 87C and my rebuilt Legend for my daughter and asked her opinion. She said that the 87C sounded more like me -- deeper voice, loud, lotta volume. The Legend sounded like mom -- not as loud, but when it speaks, you can really hear it. She said both sounded great.

As good an analysis as I've ever heard......
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-01-28 7:56 PM (#431366 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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So the Legend gets played a lot more, then, and no one pays any attention to the 87C?
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2009-01-28 8:46 PM (#431367 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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I couldn't vote, because the girls are all so different and I couldn't hurt anyone's feelings. ;) 1 double-epauletted cutaway super-shallow bowl (Jewel), 1 shallow-bowled rosetted classical (Johanna), 1 shallow-bowled rosetted 6 string (Rosa), 1 deep-bowled rosetted 6 string (Gertrude), 1 double-epauletted deep-bowled 12 string (Hildie)--and then there's the Tornado, which is F-holed and gives all the others an equal run for their money when she's amped. If push really came to shove, though, I guess I'd have to say...Gertrude; for me, she just exemplifies what an Ovation is all about.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-01-28 9:02 PM (#431368 - in reply to #431329)
Subject: Re: Round Sound hole vs Epaulet


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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
So the Legend gets played a lot more, then, and no one pays any attention to the 87C?
Pretty much.....
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