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Joined: November 2008 Posts: 1119 Location: Michigan | My high E string is much closer to the edge of the fret board than the low E. I was wondering what would be the best way to bring it back to the center, if possible. The neck is solidly attached to the body, no gaps. It would seem the bridge may have to be moved? Or should I just forget about it and play it? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1330 Location: ms | If it bothers you replacing the nut should do the trick. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1553 Location: Indiana Originally posted by AlexJW: That's what I see too...I don't know, looks fairly even at the nut? I may be wrong but I'd say it's more likely to be the bridge. Any pics of the bridge? | | Mr. Ovation |
Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7210 Location: The Great Pacific Northwest Just move the saddle a little. | | | Gallerinski |
Joined: | May 2008 Posts: 4996 Location: Phoenix AZ I wouldn't worry about it. | | | moody, p.i. |
Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal I just looked at the GC RI here by my computer. It's the same way. I wouldn't worry about it.... | | | bauerhillboy |
Joined: February 2004 Posts: 1634 Location: Warren,Pa. Yeah, it loks fine at the nut. Can't you move the string a little inward on the saddle? | | | twistedlim |
Joined: November 2008 Posts: 1119 Location: Michigan Originally posted by AlexJW: Here are pics of the bridge: I don't know, looks fairly even at the nut? I may be wrong but I'd say it's more likely to be the bridge. Any pics of the bridge? I dont know if you can move the saddle and have it make any difference? Moving the string to the side might help. Is it a big deal to have the bridge moved? | | Trader Jim |
Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307 Location: South of most, North of few Looks like the strings have been is several different positions already. | | | twistedlim |
Joined: November 2008 Posts: 1119 Location: Michigan Yea:} This guitar has some history. I did move the string over and it seems better but it looks a bit strange. | | | Northcountry |
Joined: | February 2004 Posts: 2487 Buy a new Saddle and start over. It does look as though the bridge may be slightly out of place but there is still plenty of room to move all the strings over slightly so no harm really. You might want to use the old saddle to make the cuts exactly where you want them and then transfer this infromation to the new saddle. Remember it is not good to move just one string as it places it to close to the next one. | This is a cheap but slightly time consuming fix. | | Mark in Boise |
Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12750 Location: Boise, Idaho Is the neck square with the body? Look at the heal. | | | twistedlim |
Joined: November 2008 Posts: 1119 Location: Michigan Yea its square. I moved the string on the saddle and it seems better. It was really only cosmetic but I wondered if there was an easy fix. I spoke to the guy who is doing a partial refret and he said there is no easy fix. Moving the bridge would leave a mess, changing the angle on the neck would be very time consuming. He mentioned that he could move all the string holes but recommended that since it is really only cosmetic to just let it be. Thanks for all your input. | | | Beal |
Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch loosen the neck and put it a .010 shim on the treble side. | | | Otto |
Joined: March 2008 Posts: 179 Location: Central Florida There's definitely signs of stress on this old warrior. | I'm with Mark and Beal. Gotta be the neck. Check out the gap between the fretboard and the rosette on the cutaway side. You never see that on a healthy Ovation, the fit of the Rosette is always IMMACULATE. (Some day I'd like to shake the hand of the person(s) that install those.) That gap may seem very small but consider that the fretboard’s pivot point would be where the neck meets the body. A sixteenth shift by the rosette would translate to a much larger movement up by the nut. I’ll bet if the neck was tweaked back, the strings would even out again. Otto . | | dave3dg |
Joined: November 2008 Posts: 83 Location: North Wales, UK. Well my 1986-6 must be 22 to 23 years give or take and there is just a (not really worth mentioning) bias of the high 'E' string towards the edge of the fretboard of a couple o' thou's at the 20th fret. | The neck heel joint and rosette are perfect with the fretboard on the neck straight but having a slight rise from the 12th to the 18th fret which causes no probs unless the action is dropped significantly. My Strat, about the same age by the way is dead straight with no humps and the strings run along the length of the neck perfect. When I get my two recently aquired and very collectable Celebrity's made in Korea, USA ;) I will check the layout on them eventhough they are quite new in comparison. | | twistedlim |
Joined: November 2008 Posts: 1119 Location: Michigan Originally posted by Otto: Otto, you Mark and Beal might just be right. The neck does overlap the rosette on the high E side. If you remove the bolts is the neck glued also?There's definitely signs of stress on this old warrior. I'm with Mark and Beal. Gotta be the neck. Check out the gap between the fretboard and the rosette on the cutaway side. You never see that on a healthy Ovation, the fit of the Rosette is always IMMACULATE. (Some day I'd like to shake the hand of the person(s) that install those.) That gap may seem very small but consider that the fretboard’s pivot point would be where the neck meets the body. A sixteenth shift by the rosette would translate to a much larger movement up by the nut. I’ll bet if the neck was tweaked back, the strings would even out again. Otto . | | twistedlim |
Joined: November 2008 Posts: 1119 Location: Michigan Originally posted by twistedlim: Here is a shot of the overlap: Originally posted by Otto: Otto, you Mark and Beal might just be right. The neck does overlap the rosette on the high E side. If you remove the bolts is the neck glued also? There's definitely signs of stress on this old warrior. I'm with Mark and Beal. Gotta be the neck. Check out the gap between the fretboard and the rosette on the cutaway side. You never see that on a healthy Ovation, the fit of the Rosette is always IMMACULATE. (Some day I'd like to shake the hand of the person(s) that install those.) That gap may seem very small but consider that the fretboard’s pivot point would be where the neck meets the body. A sixteenth shift by the rosette would translate to a much larger movement up by the nut. I’ll bet if the neck was tweaked back, the strings would even out again. Otto . | | twistedlim |
Joined: November 2008 Posts: 1119 Location: Michigan I guess I found the answer to the question about the glue on the neck. Looks like lots of epoxy. Too much work for cosmetics on this guitar. I think I will just get a new saddle and reset the grooves and it should be fine. | | | Mark in Boise |
Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12750 Location: Boise, Idaho Don't bother with the saddle. It's the installation of the neck that's the problem. Clean all that crap off there and put it back on straight. I noticed the same gap by the rosette that Otto did and if you look at your close up picture, the fretboard hangs over the soundhole on the treble side. The neck is canted toward that side. It may take some major luthier work, but if you've already got the neck off, you may as well try to get it back on straight yourself. Putting stuff back together is always the hard part, though. | | | twistedlim |
Joined: November 2008 Posts: 1119 Location: Michigan Thanks Mark but that is not a photo of my guitar. I found it in a search for ovation neck repair. I just wanted to point out that I did discover that the neck is heavily glued on in addition to being bolted. I agree it would take major luthier work, at least that is what my guy told me. I think it must have come from the factory like this as I loosened the bolts and it was still rock solid glued. The neck is going to stay put on this one. Too much work and $$ for a $160 guitar :) | | | Mark in Boise |
Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12750 Location: Boise, Idaho I agree. I thought you were incredibly fast at taking that neck off and maybe the glue hadn't held. For what you'd spend on a neck reset you could get another guitar. That's always a good option. | | | |
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