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deadfish
Posted 2009-02-03 6:32 PM (#429697)
Subject: Better Pics


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Location: Dayville, Connecticut
Thank you, everyone, for the model information. That label must be missing. Here are some better pictures with some explanations for what happened to my baby.


right now it looks better from a distance!


up close you can see the missing rosette and damage from someone (little brother!)ripping off the pick guard that my uncle put in place to hide a well worn face.


12 string bridge


Original Label


Same serial number stamped on to the end of the neck.


Neck separated (guitar strap broke and it hit a marble floor at church) My uncle had it repaired and it held for many years (until little brother happened!)Neck is separating again.

This guitar is in sad shape. I will make it sing again...it means to much to me...

Thanks for looking :)

Rick
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Steve
Posted 2009-02-03 6:37 PM (#429698 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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The factory can work wonders. Repair the neck, refinish the original top. You'll have a serious peice of Ovation history.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-02-03 6:37 PM (#429699 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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This guitar has serious mojo!
Take it to the mothership.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2009-02-03 7:00 PM (#429700 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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Nice, and that label is wierd. As far as I'm aware a "Deluxe Balladeer 12 String" doesn't exist in any catalog or price list.

Nice bearclaw top. Spruce like that would fetch top-dollar these days.
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deadfish
Posted 2009-02-03 7:05 PM (#429701 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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Originally posted by Jonmark Stone:
This guitar has serious mojo!
Take it to the mothership.
Mojo is right! Beal gave me some names and a number for New Hartford...I will call them. I actually considered doing the work myself..I'm not a luthier but working with wood and details is "my thang" so to speak.
That being said, I want it done right.Even if i means missing out on the satisfaction of massaging it myself.

Rick
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G8r
Posted 2009-02-03 7:06 PM (#429702 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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That is some seriously nice bearclaw on the top. Definitely get hold of John and Kim and discuss a restoration. That is an historic guitar that you'll be proud to pass on to your children.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-02-03 7:07 PM (#429703 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics
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Ummm, that's the same style label as on my friend's shiny bowl Classic.

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BT717
Posted 2009-02-03 7:23 PM (#429704 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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Location: Vernon CT
Rick,
I just sent you an E-mail

Bob
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-02-03 7:25 PM (#429705 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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Looks like it might be a 1967, the year the Deluxe Balladeer was introduced, and the price lists we have posted above start at 1971. Anyone checked Jerome's site for info on 12 string Deluxe Balladeers?
This seems to be worthy of a full restoration.
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deadfish
Posted 2009-02-03 7:27 PM (#429706 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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Location: Dayville, Connecticut
Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Nice, and that label is wierd. As far as I'm aware a "Deluxe Balladeer 12 String" doesn't exist in any catalog or price list.

Nice bearclaw top. Spruce like that would fetch top-dollar these days.
I think this instrument was a "factory reject"
that Jimmy brought back to life since we couldn't afford "the real thing". There's a repair on the bowl that looks like a patch. The gelcoat is rough and unfinshed on a large section of the back...Gelcoat is any easy repair, I just never had it done.

One question though: What do you mean by "bearclaw top" (sitka spruce?)

Thanks,
Rick
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-02-03 7:30 PM (#429707 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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Those are the marks that look like a bear clawed the tree that was used to make the top. It's the kind of "flaw" that seems to command a higher price.
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G8r
Posted 2009-02-03 7:30 PM (#429708 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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"Bearclaw" refers to the figuring in the wood, those light and dark "stripes" that run at angles across the grain.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-02-03 7:33 PM (#429709 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics
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That's a regular Model 5 (later called 1115). Early on they didn't have dedicated labels for the 12-strings so they used Balladeer or Deluxe Balladeer labels for the 12-strings and sometimes typed or hand wrote "12-string" on it. Here's a photo of a Model 8 Glen Campbell 12-string and the label they used.

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bauerhillboy
Posted 2009-02-03 7:33 PM (#429710 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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Man...you're only 1 hour away from them. You can deliver it, and you could make a couple of "visits" at key times in the process to take pics and view the work as it's happening.

At least that's what I'd do. I'd use up some sick time at work.

John <>{
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BT717
Posted 2009-02-03 7:41 PM (#429711 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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Location: Vernon CT
He's actually 2 hours away. still pretty close
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-02-03 7:43 PM (#429712 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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This would be the equivalent of me finding that 55 Speedster that had been stored in a barn all these years.
The problem with these great stories is that the restoration costs way more than the original cost, but most would be glad to be able to do it.
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deadfish
Posted 2009-02-03 7:50 PM (#429713 - in reply to #429697)
Subject: Re: Better Pics


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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Those are the marks that look like a bear clawed the tree that was used to make the top. It's the kind of "flaw" that seems to command a higher price.
I always liked that look...Thanks for the explanation.
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