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deadfish
Posted 2009-02-04 6:10 PM (#429443)
Subject: pics as promised (kent)


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(figured I'ld put it next to a fake fire to make it look fake warm and invitng!)


Oooo real wood! Sorry it's not round...


Oh yeh...it's a real Kent (isn't that a brand of cigarettes?)


Machine heads are a little sloppy but it holds tune. Note the truss rod cover...yep adjustable. I read they didn't use them (?)


adjustable bridge! Neato. I read they didn't have them either.

I put a new set of extra light D'Addario phosphor bronze on to improve the sound. Not to bad and easy to play! Sounds surprisingly good for a flat back beginners git.
I know I sound a little silly here but you should know I haven't played but once in the last 18 years. This will give my fingers a chance to remember what they once knew, while I figure out how to proceed with my Custom Balladeer.

Thanks for looking,

Rick C.
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-02-04 6:30 PM (#429444 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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I hear you Rick. I am on a comeback myself. My wrist pain has finally subsided. Congrats on the new guitar. Looks nice and all the better if plays easy and sounds good. My old Rokkomonn will only take extra lights as the bridge is pulling up (it has been the same since I got it some 20 years ago). The action on the old beast is very low, combined with the light string, 12 frets makes it play like butter. It is now my cabin guitar.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-02-04 6:43 PM (#429445 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)
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Originally posted by twistedlim:
my cabin guitar.
That 'paints' many pictures!
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Capo Guy
Posted 2009-02-04 7:35 PM (#429446 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)



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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-02-04 7:56 PM (#429447 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)
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Mike,

That is soooo wrong...
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Capo Guy
Posted 2009-02-04 8:25 PM (#429448 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)



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Johnny,

I know but I couldn't resist. :D
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-02-04 9:16 PM (#429449 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by twistedlim:
my cabin guitar.
That 'paints' many pictures!
How about this one, my daughter finally wants to learn. I took old guit to the cabin so I dont have to drag one back and forth. A shiny head and an old guitar :)
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-02-05 5:26 AM (#429450 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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Very cool Rich! ....and Iffy, I told you some day we'd look back at this and laugh. :D :rolleyes: :p
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deadfish
Posted 2009-02-05 7:52 AM (#429451 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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Originally posted by twistedlim:
I My old Rokkomonn will only take extra lights as the bridge is pulling up
The bridge on this one isn't pulling up but there is a slight bulge behind it...another reason why I went "extra lite"...almost went to silk and steals but I didn't like the sound on my O so i figured I'ld like them less on a flat back.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-02-05 8:25 AM (#429452 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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My first guitar was a Kent electric w/ a Silvertone amp...years later I tried to buy it back from the girl who bought it from me...she souldn't sell...it was her first guitar too...

Play on.....

Iffy, see what happens when I leave...lol

Glad it's all better now!
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-02-05 8:37 AM (#429453 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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Originally posted by deadfish:
Originally posted by twistedlim:
I My old Rokkomonn will only take extra lights as the bridge is pulling up
The bridge on this one isn't pulling up but there is a slight bulge behind it...another reason why I went "extra lite"...almost went to silk and steals but I didn't like the sound on my O so i figured I'ld like them less on a flat back.
I have not tried the silk/steels on my old guitar but I have a set packed for the next trip to the cabin so we'll see how they sound. Did you notice my head is an inverted shiny bowl? :) That is the true ovation look.
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deadfish
Posted 2009-02-05 8:46 AM (#429454 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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Originally posted by twistedlim:
[Did you notice my head is an inverted shiny bowl? :) That is the true ovation look. [/QB]
Now that's funny! When cut do you bleed Sitka sap?! :D

Rick
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numbfingers
Posted 2009-02-05 10:51 AM (#429455 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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Looks like the Kent has the same adjustable steel saddle as my Heit (posted in your other thread). The back looks like the same wood too. The top on the Heit has pulled up over the years so the action is pretty high. I wonder if this JLD Bridge Doctor would fix cheap old guitars like these.

-Steve W.
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deadfish
Posted 2009-02-05 11:22 AM (#429456 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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Originally posted by numbfingers:
Looks like the Kent has the same adjustable steel saddle as my Heit (posted in your other thread). The back looks like the same wood too. The top on the Heit has pulled up over the years so the action is pretty high. I wonder if this JLD Bridge Doctor would fix cheap old guitars like these.-Steve W.
Well that looks interesting...don't think I need that yet though because the action is still low on this one...
I would think, though, that the tone would change for the worse by attaching something so rigid to the top...maybe not...it's advertised to improve sound.
You can certainly see how it could pull down the belly...pretty "inventive". Inexpensive as well.
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numbfingers
Posted 2009-02-05 11:47 AM (#429457 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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The "Bridge Doctor" doesn't look like something you'd want to install in your vintage Martin, and it would probably change the tone. But it might make an old cheapo playable without the cost of completely rebuilding it. Maybe someone here has experience with it.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-02-05 12:21 PM (#429458 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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I have had a lot of success with tailpieces on low-end guitars with bridges that were lifting. A good tailpiece does not touch the top at all, and it really does improve the sound. On a conventioal bridge with bridgepins, you have the strings pushing up on the top from the ball end, and pushing down on the top from the saddle. With a tailpiece, the pressure on the top comes only from the saddle. Once there is no more upward pressure, the bulge disappears, the bridge will not lift any further, and the volume increases considerably. Not only that, but they actually look pretty cool.
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numbfingers
Posted 2009-02-05 12:44 PM (#429459 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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Do you mean a trpaeze tailpiece ? I remember these on cheap guitars in the old days. If so, how do they attach at the bridge, or do the strings go through them? Could this type of tailpiece overcome the bulging top?

Thanks for your help. Deadfish, sorry for diverting the thread.

-Steve W.
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deadfish
Posted 2009-02-05 1:05 PM (#429460 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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Originally posted by numbfingers:

Thanks for your help. Deadfish, sorry for diverting the thread.

-Steve W. [/QB]
You may hijack with my blessing! this is good stuff! Thanks to all.

rick
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-02-05 1:50 PM (#429461 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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Hi Numbfingers, Yes, once the tail piece has been on for a day or two, the top will flatten right out. They are attatched usually by three screws at the bottom of the guitar, near the strapknob. The strings go through them and rest on the saddle. They are easy to install. You could probably do it yourself. Just start with a SMALL drillbit, then go up in size until the hole is a lttle smaller than the screw. That way you won't run the risk of splitting the wood or cracking the finish. I have put several of these on guitars, especially twelve-strings, and the sound has always improved.
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numbfingers
Posted 2009-02-05 1:58 PM (#429462 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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Ha! Worry about cracking the finish on my Heit? I'll send you a PM about getting the right part. Thanks!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-02-05 2:18 PM (#429463 - in reply to #429443)
Subject: Re: pics as promised (kent)


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I had a tailpiece on my first acoustic guitar. I could never get the action low enough. Then, I blamed it on the tailpiece, but now I know that it needed a neck reset. Sold it for a few dollars more than I paid for it and bought my first Ovation.
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