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Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?

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dobro
Posted 2009-02-06 1:56 PM (#429141)
Subject: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?



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Stories abound about Ovation cracks, unglued parts, ripped bridges.... I never hear about an Adamas.

QUESTION: Do the carbon axes have their own problems in the area of craftsmanship, durability, temperature, humidity? Not talking about cases of abuse, stupidity or malice.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-02-06 2:01 PM (#429142 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?


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I don't think one would hold up to the trebuchet, but other than that, it would take a lot of abuse to affect them. I did have an issue with a UTE once with braces coming loose, but the factory fixed it without issue.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2009-02-06 2:02 PM (#429143 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?


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Aside from the top, I'm sure that they have all of the same problems their wood topped brethren do.

The only issue I ever noticed with the top on my Millennium, is the brace pattern showing through - just barely. The 47 has been rock solid.
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dobro
Posted 2009-02-06 2:20 PM (#429144 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?



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That is logical, Mike, but I've NEVER noticed a "wounded Adamas" story here. LOTS of damaged wood!
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-02-06 2:29 PM (#429145 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?


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Also keep in mind that the few guitar we do hear about suffering any damage, would be destroyed guitars if they were wood. I doubt too many other brand wood guitars would survive multiple shots off of a trebuchet.

Things like bridge lifts or cracked tops happen to all guitars. I know a Taylor, that the back split right open, right down the middle.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-02-06 2:47 PM (#429146 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?


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Tops can delaminate... so I was told by mother many moons ago.

I had a small section of the mounting ring separate from the bowl early on. Easy repair.
Not indestructible but surely will take abuse wood tops won't.

Consider this scenario. I played a show in the Rockies, 12,000 ft, 15 degrees.
Next day Adamas flew in the chilly bagage hold at 32,000 ft to Hilton head Island, sea level, 60 degree temp, played an outdoor show.
Guitar was in better shape than I was.

Haven't touched the truss rod in 26 years.
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-02-06 3:12 PM (#429147 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?



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I quote this saying often in my job.
You can screw up an anvil if you try hard enough.
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dobro
Posted 2009-02-06 3:18 PM (#429148 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?



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true story (or if the anvil falls, it can screw YOU up!)
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dweezil
Posted 2009-02-06 3:29 PM (#429149 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?


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I just tried standing on the 1680 and 'surfed' down the stairs. Still in tune...
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-02-06 3:39 PM (#429150 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?


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Interior top braces do ocassionaly come loose...the dreaded "buzz in the machine"...
other than that, they're pretty stable...
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-02-06 4:09 PM (#429151 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?



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Find one with some wear & tear at the right price and an Adamas could be the ultimate beach guitar.
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Beal
Posted 2009-02-06 4:30 PM (#429152 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?



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They can have neck issues, I've seen the tops get bashed out of the rings but they just glued it back in. Worked OK.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-02-06 6:26 PM (#429153 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?
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I had 2 issues on 2 different adamas

1) neck reset on a 1881

2) popped brace on a 1687
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-02-06 6:36 PM (#429154 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?



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I have some finish checking on one of my Adamas models. Of course, it is a wood top SSB prototype, so I guess it doesn't count.
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Northcountry
Posted 2009-02-06 6:52 PM (#429155 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?
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Yep like everyone else says, pretty much as tough as nails compared with a wood top. But then that was the original purpose of this stuff. I am speaking of the early Adamas textured tops. I know little of the later designs. It was designed by Mr. C.K. to be a durable suface material for fighter jets. From my limited knowledge of the company (Bill would be the go to guy here on any of the history) but my take on it the sonic properties while testing for radar invisiblity were an accidental benefit and what a cool thing that was...is.

Randy
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Otto
Posted 2009-02-07 2:27 AM (#429156 - in reply to #429141)
Subject: Re: Is an Admas INDESTRUCTIBLE?



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I have an 8 year old son.

He has screwdrivers.

NOTHING is indestructible.

Not even him.

He knows this and gives my guitars a wide berth.

;)

I'm kidding of course. He gets to play with any of them
as long as there are no tools in his hands.

Otto
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