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Robet Smith (The Cure) Ovation 12-string?

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sycamore
Posted 2009-02-22 10:04 AM (#426589)
Subject: Robet Smith (The Cure) Ovation 12-string?


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Been listening to The Cure - some of their stuff is way too gothic but some is OK. Wikipedia says one of Smith's guitars is an "Ovation L756 12-string acoustic".

Should that be a 1756, or has anyone heard of an L756?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-02-22 11:06 AM (#426590 - in reply to #426589)
Subject: Re: Robet Smith (The Cure) Ovation 12-string?



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Yes.

An L756 would be left-handed... Since he isn't left-handed, it must be a 1756.

Understand that Wikipedia is knowledge by consensus...
Which is real cool, except most people are stupid. :p
I mean, people can be sincere and be sincerely wrong.

It's kinda like looking for guitar information online...
All the online stores can have the same specs on a guitar that you have in Your Hand,
And all the online stores can have the wrong specs.

Because One source has wrong information, and all the others quote it... Like Wikipedia.
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sycamore
Posted 2009-02-23 4:58 AM (#426591 - in reply to #426589)
Subject: Re: Robet Smith (The Cure) Ovation 12-string?


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Yes, it's a mixed bag, wikipedia.
I 'spose the OFC is knowledge by consensus too, but it's a consensus of experts.
Didn't know that L*** meant left-handed. Is that a standard naming convention, e.g. would a left-handed Pacemaker be an L615?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-02-23 5:26 AM (#426592 - in reply to #426589)
Subject: Re: Robet Smith (The Cure) Ovation 12-string?



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There are only two left-handed "L" guitars listed in the Price List (L777 & L778), but I know I have seen an L718 (1718) listed on eBarf.

I would think that you could order any new Ovation left-handed and it would be an L-something.
(Celebrity has LCC)

But otherwise your guess is as good as mine.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-02-23 8:25 AM (#426593 - in reply to #426589)
Subject: Re: Robet Smith (The Cure) Ovation 12-string?
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I think Ovation adopted the "L" designation with the advent of cutaway models, since the left handed versions required a completely different bowl from the normal rightly version.

On older symmetric models like balladeer, legend, pacemaker non-cutaways the lefty versions had the same model number as the righty. They just got a differently routed bridge and a different nut. I don't know if the actualy bracing pattern was reversed or not (since on the VT type guitars the bracing is not symmetrical) - that would be a good trivia question.

As far as I know, with the introduction of the LX guitars there are no left handed versions. Appearently there is no tooling to make the new LX bowl and Contour bowl in left handed versions.
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Tony PD
Posted 2009-02-24 12:19 AM (#426594 - in reply to #426589)
Subject: Re: Robet Smith (The Cure) Ovation 12-string?


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The Cure - Trust live
One of my favorite Cure songs, although not exactly an upbeat tune.
Robert Smith playing a 12-string O (Custom Legend?).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXNBF6yPkas&feature=related
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sycamore
Posted 2009-02-24 5:54 AM (#426595 - in reply to #426589)
Subject: Re: Robet Smith (The Cure) Ovation 12-string?


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Well that clip shows he's not playing left handed (but could be playing an upside-down lefty guitar like Hendrix's upside-down righty Strat).
It worries me that I care about such details!

Either way, I think we can add RJ to the list of known Ovation players.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2009-02-24 6:03 AM (#426596 - in reply to #426589)
Subject: Re: Robet Smith (The Cure) Ovation 12-string?


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Originally posted by Gallerinski:

I don't know if the actualy bracing pattern was reversed or not (since on the VT type guitars the bracing is not symmetrical) - that would be a good trivia question.
Years ago a installed a pickup in an acoustic-only left-handed Legend with VT bracing. The bracing was the sames as a right-handed model, which struck me as strange. Don't know if this was the norm or a factory glitch.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-02-24 7:33 AM (#426597 - in reply to #426589)
Subject: Re: Robet Smith (The Cure) Ovation 12-string?


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I would guess that it was the norm. I seem to remember somebody who played left handed commenting to me that the bracing patterns weren't reversed.

With the advent of the A braced tops, it didn't make any difference as they were fairly symetrical.

I would guess that you could order an LX braced top in lefty, but that it would have to have an older bowl and neck bracing system....
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PEZ
Posted 2009-02-28 4:01 AM (#426598 - in reply to #426589)
Subject: Re: Robet Smith (The Cure) Ovation 12-string?



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Originally posted by Tony PD:
The Cure - Trust live
One of my favorite Cure songs, although not exactly an upbeat tune.
Robert Smith playing a 12-string O (Custom Legend?).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXNBF6yPkas&feature=related
Sure is a Custom Legend.
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