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Location: Chicago | My JOB, besides the lucrative jazz career :) is another quixotic passion: I teach and publish (lest I perish).
In fact, I've been accused of being a "compulsive teacher". This thread confirms that.
Anyone else want to discuss Major7th#11 chords, their parent scales and harmonic contexts? Can't wait! |
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I state again, homeless?
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Location: Location Location Location | Fascinating stuff here.
dobro, have you spent any time with George Van Eps 'Harmonic Mechanisms', and if so, how did you approach it? |
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Greek Drama and Metafictional Poetics vs The Lineman For The County.
Paul, please re-read this entire thread. Slowly... |
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Location: Chicago | Well, I lied about the van... But a Blackberry makes it easy to post on this site even when kickin' it in the ProtaPotty. 'know wadi'm sayin' biaa*ch
Van Eps: I used to own the first volume: it's an amazing resource, especially for zealots of chord-melody guitar. His approach is best described as "pianistic", and nobody will teach you more about chord subs that gvE. His books are deep and meticuolous: the approach is calculated to be efficient physically as well as harmonically. To be honest, I'm not a great practitioner of jazz chord melody, but I love it and have made a few arrangements (e.g., Round Midnight, a solo in No Mystery) For the van Eps method, by the way, you need to be able to read staff well...
My main influence was the Berklee guitar school where my teacher Dave Bradley was trained. He approached the axe more from the Mick Goodrick and Bill Leavitt angle, if that means anything to you.... |
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Location: Location Location Location | I appreciate the response. I'm not really into the chord-melody thing either, but I got the books to give me some inside track on harmony. Meticulous, yeah, but also fairly tedious and VERY dense. I'm aware of the Bill Leavitt books. I worked through his sight reading book, and slugged my way through the Modern Guitar method volumes.
Great insights you're providing there. I feel like I'm getting away with something by tapping into this stuff. Thanks. |
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Location: Chicago | The truth: You need only three things: The Real Book (an accurate lead-sheet); A clear understanding of how to analyze a chart and build chords; IMAGINATION!!! The beauty of the "lap piano" (guitar) is that it speak to each of us individually. YOUR chord melody or comping will necessarily be different from MINE. Yea! Ted Greene and van Eps are just two stories among many... |
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Location: SoCal | About 35 years ago, Guitar Player magazine put out a double album. They brought in a number of great guitar players to play tunes (I'm sorry I didn't meet Larry Corryell at the Ovation 40th party in '06 -- I just wanted to tell him that his tune, Autumn in New York was incredible!). Herb Ellis and Barney Kessel did two tunes together. The one that stuck in my mind was Tea For Two. At first it was slow and nothing special. Then they picked up the pace. Kessel single note stuff was incredible, but better yet was Ellis' chord leads. I can still hear it all these years later...... |
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Location: Waterloo, IL | Amazing how one question can get a thread going this well. :) I learn a little, others learn a little, and we all struggle to improve our playing even more. Now if I can just get these inside chords working for me... |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | BRILLIANT !!!
Thanks Gregg :)
..and Thank you CHUCK for this thread.. :)
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Location: Newington, CT | GREAT thread! GREAT topic! GERAT information!!! |
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Location: Chicago | Nice lesson! I really think that it is VERY important to "get free" of bar chords in order to grow. Barre chords are essential and the first big step, but if you are locked into them, you get REAL tired fast and have no variety in your chords: every Ab maj 7 will sound the same. No color! |
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Location: SoCal | This is a timely topic for me. I've got what seems to be an inflamed tendon on the top of my left wrist and forearm. Barre chords cause it to get worse. Either I look for new ways to do barres or stop playing for a month (according to most, no great loss to the music world).
I'm lucky in that I've got big hands and can grab a lot of chords using my thumb to catch the bass note, but open chords up the neck gives me more tones with which to work. Between capos and open barres, I might still be in business...... |
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Location: Chicago | So necessity IS the mother of invetion, Moody:)
It's actually a fun puzzle of sorts. You think of a chord you need, say G... OK: it contains the notes G B D and maybe F or F# for a seventh sound. So you ask: what open strings can I use? What do I need to fret? Then you can throw in ANY note for color, as long as it sounds good to your ear.
Check out the intro to FROM THE BEGINNING (GUITAR LESSON) by Emerson Lake & Palmer. It's all that sort of chording. Not TOO hard and VERY sweet! |
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Location: Location Location Location | This is a timely topic for me. I've got what seems to be an inflamed tendon on the top of my left wrist and forearm. Barre chords cause it to get worse. Either I look for new ways to do barres or stop playing for a month There's a cool book with some great voicings. It's 'Open-String Guitar Chords' by Tom Principato. There are tons of voices up and down the neck for each chord. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I'll toss in the idea of using a "cut" or partial capo. Less fingering required. |
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Location: GA USA | I bought the book Brooklyn mentioned on Amazon this morning. They still show that there is one available, new for $14.00, but I think that's the one I bought. If so, there is a used one for around $20, and then they jump to $30 and skyrocket from there. |
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