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cichlidwater
Posted 2009-03-20 5:59 PM (#422321)
Subject: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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Thanks for all the funny answers to the string question I posted and I would not pay $30.00 for a set of strings! Maybe if they were gold and I could sell them for scrap when they wear out.
I am asking for advise on the handrubbed oil neck on the Adamas 1597. I used Birchwood Casey gunstock oil (satin sheen) on my MM Axis which has a maple unfinished neck with absolutely beautiful results "I mean beautiful" The Ovation site calls for a urethane wax? What is the general opinion or has anyone out there in Ovation land used a product with good result? My Guitar is kinda in need of the treatment. plus it will give me something to do to make it a better instrument. Thanks, for the holla back!
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-03-20 6:07 PM (#422322 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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On a natural wood neck, I use teak oil. Most will darken a little with a couple of applications. I apply it then before it drys all the way, I buff it with a clean cloth. Really leaves a nice finish.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-03-20 6:42 PM (#422323 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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Tru-Oil is excellent as well.
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enders UKII
Posted 2009-03-20 7:04 PM (#422324 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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Will these work on the Ovation maple neck, CG178LX?
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-03-20 7:52 PM (#422325 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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This is 12 coats of Tru-Oil. Maple in the skunk stripe. There is a very slight amber tone in the maple.
Cannot say enough about how much I love the feel of this finish on a neck.
Not for everyone I know, but it's pretty and tough.

As always, apologies for the lousy camera.

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Losov
Posted 2009-03-21 9:01 AM (#422326 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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Interesting stuff. I've always used Butcher's Wax on my 1869 because that's what the owner's manual suggested, but I've never been thrilled with the results. Haven't applied any in a while.

If I switch to Tru-Oil or gun oil, do I have to do anything special beforehand or just go ahead and apply it?
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-03-21 12:52 PM (#422327 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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I honestly can't tell you how Tru-Oil will interact with the "urethane oil" the MS uses on their hand rubbed finishes.
So far my T-O experience has been restricted to full refinish, and using T-O to repair a nick in an original T-O finish... which it does flawlessly.

I can tell you that T-O is compatible with traditional nitro cellulose... meaning you can overspray T-O with no nasty results. And I understand the same is true with urethane based poly sprays... so, my best guess would be that it would work well with the factory applied finish... but I would try a small spot first.
Prep with fine steel wool and degrease somehow.

The most important rule of thumb with hand rubbed oil's is to prepare the wood to a degree of surface perfection notches above surface prep for oversprays. I work my way to 1500 grit sand paper, ending up with 0000 steel wool as the final step before beginning the oil application.

Oil's will not cover minor surface blemishes like oversprays will. For full refin's, I use at least 12 applications, 12 hours apart applied with a soft cloth.

The depth, especially with darker woods like mahogany, has to be seen up close to appreciate.

Good luck with your project.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-03-21 1:01 PM (#422328 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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Just for reference, this headstock has a Tru-Oil finish with a nitro overspray.

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edensharvest
Posted 2009-03-21 1:28 PM (#422329 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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Wow, that is incredible. I've never seen definition like that on an Ovation neck before. What model did you start with for that refinish?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-03-21 1:33 PM (#422330 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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Jonmark, you used to have pics of these guitars on the ning site. What happened to them? Couldn't find them the last time I looked (couldn't find your profile either.....
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-03-21 1:39 PM (#422331 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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It's a mixed Legend. Nutmeg AAA top, brown artist depth cutaway bowl, standard Legend top binding and uncarved bridge (with vine inlay's), Custom legend fretboard and rosette.
I had it built in '82.

Kim and I recently went back and forth trying to relabel this. I finally decided to make my own and call it a Franken Legend. I had an album posted on the ning site... until I accidentally deleted my account there. Just haven't had the chance to rebuild it yet.

Very nice piece of mahogany in the neck but, as I mentioned, the oil finish brings out figuring depth unlike overspraying. It builds the finish from the inside out instead of from the surface up.
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edensharvest
Posted 2009-03-21 1:45 PM (#422332 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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Nice...I love it! I frequently refer to my son as "FrankenBaby" the way he waddles, so that just really made my day!

Sounds spectacular by the way. I think I'd probably do something very similar if I were to spec out a custom Legend.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-03-21 1:48 PM (#422333 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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Moody... I screwed up my ning account by trying to delete another account there... actually I had some help from a bottle of Cab.

I'm getting a better camera this week so I'll work on getting my ning going again.
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PEZ
Posted 2009-03-21 6:56 PM (#422334 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?



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Originally posted by Jonmark Stone:
Just for reference, this headstock has a Tru-Oil finish with a nitro overspray.

Who did the inlay??
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-03-21 7:16 PM (#422335 - in reply to #422321)
Subject: Re: Hand rubbed oil neck! What to do?


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Mike Lennon. Ran the Apprentice Shop in Spring Hill Tennessee until a Saturn plant gobbled up the small town. Very talented guy.

Here's his inlay work on the bridge.
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