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flag72
Posted 2009-03-26 11:21 AM (#421625)
Subject: Would you buy a crack Ovation


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Hi again
as you well no im looking to buy a vintage Ovation,on e-bay there's a 1985 collector edition for sale it as youtube video of it showing the crack and the guy also play's it,ive ask a many question and the saler seem to answer every question ask.he's not the original owner but he say's it probably was drop that's why it's crack but play's and stay's in-tune very well.would this be a good or bad move for this guitar.
again thank you
Daniel :)
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2009-03-26 11:24 AM (#421626 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation


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Can you post the link?
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bvince
Posted 2009-03-26 11:35 AM (#421627 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation



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A couple things to look at here ... You should find out if the crack is all the way through the wood or just a finish crack. (as is common on old Ovations and doesn't affect the sound or playability) The location of the "crack" would also be an important factor. A good close up picture of the guitar top could help make that determination, or you could have the guy check it out at a guitar shop. If it ended up being the worst case scenario and it was cracked all the way through the wood, you would have to get it REALLY cheap to make it worth the cost of sending to the factory (if that was you desire)

In most cases the cracks are just finish cracks, which would lower the overall dollar value of the guitar, but not affect its sound. Some people actually think they are cool and add a sort of charachter to the guitar. What ever you do, make sure you know the exact condition of the instrument (preferably through a reputable guitar shop on his end) before you commit.
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flag72
Posted 2009-03-26 11:48 AM (#421628 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation


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http://cgi.ebay.com/1985-Ovation-Collectors-Series-Model-1985-1-Ser...
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this is the guitar
Daniel
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Auriemma
Posted 2009-03-26 12:06 PM (#421629 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation



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It looks like 2-3 cracks, one from the holes to the bridge (and beyond), another form the bridge on down, and a 3rd coming from the bottom edge to the previous crack.

Some things that to look at in the pics.

In pic 4:
- The bridge looks like its been reglued down. Note the grey/white at the joint of the bridge to the deck.

in pics 4, 6-10:
- The reflections show a change in top shape at the cracks. I think these are way more than finish cracks.

This guitar is a hurtin' puppy IMHO. Shame.
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-03-26 12:06 PM (#421630 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation


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From the photo it looks like the crack may be through the top. When you can see the white against the sunburst finish it usually indicates the wood on either side is at a different level, hence a through crack. With the fret wear I would pass.
I have repaired a top crack with glue and a couple of cleats and it sounds fine but that crack is close to the body and you would be hard pressed to get a glue syrange and a cleat that close to the edge of the top unless you have really tiny hands :) And it would always show up (even if you glued and cleated it) unless you sent it back to mother to have a new top put on .
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-03-26 1:48 PM (#421631 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation



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Unfortunate. In all other respects, this guitar would be a keeper. Might still be if the MS could repair the top crack in lieu of total top replacement, assuming it doesn't need any other attention.
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bvince
Posted 2009-03-26 2:21 PM (#421632 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation



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From what I see in the pictures, I would venture to say the top needs replaced. I'f one were able to not spend any more than the current price, it could be worth it to somebody to have it repaired by the factory. If it COULD be repaired by just a glue-job, I don't see it being much more than a beater. If it were me,I'd pass and save my cash for something more worth my time ... like one of those textured top 12 strings on this site.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-03-26 4:38 PM (#421633 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation



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As a dedicated bargain-hunter, I was gonna say 'If it don't go above $200...'
Well... It is over $200.
If you Really like it, keep an eye on it.
But once it hits $250 plus shipping, you could find one in better condition.

I just noticed that you can see the cracks in All the photos of the top...
Even guitars I have had that have had cracks... From some angles they looked alright. :p

It's a Collector, but not That collectible.
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gh1
Posted 2009-03-26 5:45 PM (#421634 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation


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I hear crack Ovations are extremely addicting and make your teeth fall out. I'd stay away from this one.

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gh1
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bcoombs
Posted 2009-03-26 6:59 PM (#421635 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation


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I was wondering how long that would take...
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flag72
Posted 2009-03-26 10:30 PM (#421636 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation


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Well Old Man Arthur
im a bargain -hunter to.and thank's to the advise of the OFC member I will stay away from this one.it's to bad I like the model but :(
I will keep on looking for that great deal.and will probably ask more question.
til next time
from up north
Daniel
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-03-26 10:44 PM (#421637 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation



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One cheapskate to another... I wouldn't buy it.
If it is still $177 in the last ten minutes I might bid 200... figuring that I could salvage the case and the parts if I couldn't fix it. But if you are looking for a good guitar, that ain't it.
Figure $300 for the guitar, then 3,4, $500 for a MS trip... Plus postage from Canada?
Naw...

Want a cheap USA shallow bowl?

[couldn't find a cheap elite... sorry]
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flag72
Posted 2009-03-26 11:15 PM (#421638 - in reply to #421625)
Subject: Re: Would you buy a crack Ovation


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U the MAN OMA
be carfull it say's that the case as some damage,
and yes I saw the legend you mention think it's a good model,that's something I could like
thank's
Daniel
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