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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-07-16 7:02 PM (#407045 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops



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Originally posted by FlySig:
Be sure to consider the warranty cost. Many cheap PC's come with a very short warranty, like 90 days. You want at least a year, preferably 2.
Mine came with a year, plus the Norton free trial stuff, even though I got it offa da Bay.

I really just wanted to comment on how a $500 computer is considered a "Cheap PC" :p
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-07-16 7:23 PM (#407046 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops



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Don't get something with a big screen because big screen = big weight. As a student she'll be carrying it around all the time (along with a load of books) and every pound counts.

I have 13" macbook and ideally would like something lighter, getting lighter than that means missing out on other stuff.

You can buy an external monitor to leave on her desk - it's really easy to use two screens and have different windows on the different screens (e.g. a pdf of an article along with Word).
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-07-16 7:56 PM (#407047 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops



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My Mom was asking about those 10" $299 computers she had seen advertised. (I recommended No)
You can get real small with no DVD driver and a teeny HD. Basically a big cell phone.

The real question is will this be her only computer?
If she has a full computer at her residence, she can use a small computer and swap files around.
(That way both computers can share the same viruses)
But if she is only gonna have One Computer, you will want something with similar features as a desktop.

She should also spend $100 or less on an external hard drive to put back-ups onto...
I have an HP Pocket Media Drive (320GB $79). It is designed to slide into my desktop, but it will also connect to my laptop with a USB cable.
That is how I just transferred about 8GB of music, and a coupla movies.
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sligoman
Posted 2009-07-16 9:48 PM (#407048 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops


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Paul: I don't know jack about computers but if she is going to need one in class, the school should have some recommendations and maybe some plans. UO law school did when my #3 was considering that. And then they have ports at the desks. My kids have all gone though and toward the end I was amazed at how much teaching and learning is done in the emails with profs. It's the Socratic method at its best. And the kids can't hide in the class like I did. They're the better for it.
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playadamas
Posted 2009-07-16 9:50 PM (#407049 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops


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...math majors don't use numeric keypads (10-key), accounting/booking people do!
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2009-07-16 9:58 PM (#407050 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops


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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
She should also spend $100 or less on an external hard drive to put back-ups onto...
I've been seeing ads for 1 TERAbyte hard drives for $79... simply astounding. I still have card decks and printouts from college.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-07-16 9:59 PM (#407051 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops


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Originally posted by playadamas:
...math majors don't use numeric keypads (10-key), accounting/booking people do!
Just telling you what she said....
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Auriemma
Posted 2009-07-17 7:50 AM (#407052 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops



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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
One other thing she's looking for is a laptop with a numeric 10 key. She's going to be a math major and thinks it might be important....
You can get that as a USB peripheral. Those are fairly inexpensive.
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-07-17 7:53 AM (#407053 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops


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Originally posted by Auriemma:
Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
One other thing she's looking for is a laptop with a numeric 10 key. She's going to be a math major and thinks it might be important....
You can get that as a USB peripheral. Those are fairly inexpensive.
He's been offered one for free if he goes that route.
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bcoombs
Posted 2009-07-17 12:00 PM (#407054 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Originally posted by playadamas:
...math majors don't use numeric keypads (10-key), accounting/booking people do!
Just telling you what she said....
Having taken enough classes (minus one) to get a math minor, I can't imagine a math major needing a 10-key. The actual numbers (digits) start becoming smaller parts of the equation. Variables and symbols start taking over, and you won't find those on a 10-key.

Oh, and not only is a larger screen heavier, they are huge power-sucks, requiring larger power supplies, which generate more heat,...
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fletcher
Posted 2009-07-17 1:11 PM (#407055 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops


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Moody,
You won't find a small, affordable laptop with a 10 key. I agree with your daughter about wanting one and the suggestions for a usb pad is a great solution. I use one for everyday work and find it much easier than using the laptop's number keys or the keyboard's number's lock function. No, I'm not an accountant but doing any calculations at all on the laptop keyboard I find to be slow and cumbersome.

I understand your not wanting to go with a Mac, but if your daughter decides SHE wants one, I suggest going with the basic MacBook Pro instead of the MacBook. The case is more durable, the screen is better, it has a SB card slot, the battery life is better due to the different screen, and the resale value after a few years is great. She would probably be able to upgrade to a new Mac in 4 years by selling this years model for 1/2 the cost of a new one. Just check out what old 12" G4 Mac laptops (2 generations old) sell for today. Yes, the Pro's are $200 or so more than the MacBooks.

My favorite source of Mac equipment is www.PowerMax.com in Oregon - free shipping and no sales tax.
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FlySig
Posted 2009-07-17 5:35 PM (#407056 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops



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Don't forget that there are excellent student discounts available. The school's bookstore will have a computer section with all kinds of discount stuff, but you can probably get the same discount online or at the manufacturer's store.
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BruDeV
Posted 2009-07-17 6:04 PM (#407057 - in reply to #407020)
Subject: Re: OT: Laptops


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I'd get her a "graphing calculator" as well. When you get to calculus, they're a gotta have.

Especially if the teacher designs tests based on the assumption that you have one.
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