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Beal
Posted 2009-08-21 9:50 AM (#402360 - in reply to #402310)
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MWoody
Posted 2009-08-21 10:46 AM (#402361 - in reply to #402310)
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fletcher
Posted 2009-08-21 11:04 AM (#402362 - in reply to #402310)
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"J Lo" ?
How does that help identify a single ovation? ALL of mine (except the 'male' tornado) have fine rounded backsides.
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ladylaw
Posted 2009-08-21 2:17 PM (#402363 - in reply to #402310)
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Originally posted by fletcher:
"J Lo" ?
How does that help identify a single ovation? ALL of mine (except the 'male' tornado) have fine rounded backsides.
Men can have nice fine rounded backsides too.

Anita
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-08-21 2:32 PM (#402364 - in reply to #402310)
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Well, I never thought of it that much. But I guess if I am going to have something that is good looking and sits on my lap, it would be male! ;) :D :o Really wishful thinking on my part right now.

If I had a Balladeer from the 1970s, I'd probably end up calling it "Croce".

Michelle
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-08-21 3:00 PM (#402365 - in reply to #402310)
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But I guess if I am going to have something that is good looking and sits on my lap, it would be male!


LOL, Michelle. Ditto that ~ fer sure. However, as I've already mentioned, I name my guitars.

I will have to name this one "Frida", after Frida Kahlo, because she is so deliciously colorful!

;)
Willa
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-08-21 3:06 PM (#402366 - in reply to #402310)
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Originally posted by WillaMuse:
But I guess if I am going to have something that is good looking and sits on my lap, it would be male!


LOL, Michelle. Ditto that ~ fer sure. However, as I've already mentioned, I name my guitars.

I will have to name this one "Frida", after Frida Kahlo, because she is so deliciously colorful!

;)
Willa
When you said "Frida", I thought of Frida from ABBA! Not only is she pretty, she has a lovely voice, IMHO.

Michelle
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-21 4:54 PM (#402367 - in reply to #402310)
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Originally posted by Guitarzannie:
Well, I never thought of it that much. But I guess if I am going to have something that is good looking and sits on my lap, it would be male! ;) :D :o Really wishful thinking on my part right now.

If I had a Balladeer from the 1970s, I'd probably end up calling it "Croce".

Michelle
There...NOW yer a'gettin' into the spirit! Isn't it true that a guitar interacts with its/her/his player any NUMBER of different ways? Doesn't it/he/she DEFINITELY have a personality, and a color, and a character, and a general "feel," and a voice, and a voice quility, and any number of anthropomorphizing characteristics (including a shape)?

Also, we ALL speak of them in tones sometimes reserved for loved ones. "She was meant for me!" Or, "I wanted to show her off to everyone!" Or "I love how she sings." Or "She has the voice of an angel." And more...

Sounds as though MANY of us think of them as far more than just "its," and they touch us on levels deeper than using them as just "tools" or "instruments."

Rather, don't they kind of become extensions of ourselves? I mean, I speak several different languages, but the guitar adds a whole different dimension to my ability to express myself.

And, don't our spouses, when it's good, become like extensions of ourselves (and we of them) so that we are bigger, better, more complete, more whole, healthier, happier?

I'm single now, and my ex-wife and I had about two good years -- out of 15 -- when she was not drunk each day and night. Those years were two of the happiest of my life. And, it was because she and I were extensions of each other. There were many moments where I saw my influences in her, and she saw that in me, and we reveled in those feelings. Then, when it got bad, those feelings receded into the distance, and I FELT them withdraw. And that was absolutely heart-rending, because there seemed to be nothing I could do but watch my love recede into the distance.

Now, the only way to approach that kind of feeling is to sit down on a comfy couch with one of my "girls" and play "her" for several hours. It's a similar feeling in magnitude, but different in substance...almost a reverse Pygmalion type of thing.

So, my guitars will never substitute for interacting with a good woman at a deep level, but they are the best "Plan B" I can get to for the time being, and, because I'm DEFINITELY a he, that's why they're ALL "she."

And have names.
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-08-21 6:16 PM (#402368 - in reply to #402310)
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AlanM,

Yes, guitars are definitely an extension of our personalities. I'd like to be able to use music to touch people's souls. And each one has a different voice, which explains why we need different ones for different tunes.

A guitar will never replace interacting with a good man at a deep level, but it can be used to meet a good man! While we some times judge guitars on the basis of looks, they can't judge us back!

I'm sorry you had to go through all of that with your ex. It must have been hell.

BTW, when I tried a contour bowl, I felt like it was the most intimate experience I had with a guitar. Unfortunately, I just didn't like the sound of the koa top.

Michelle
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-23 2:04 PM (#402369 - in reply to #402310)
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Thanks for the thoughts, Michelle! It WAS rough with the ex, but I had lots and lots of things to help me see it through, so I can't complain too much.

To your point about the guitars: yes, that was exactly what I meant. When the depth of an important relationship recedes from us, we search for profundity elsewhere, and we sometimes find it in the inanimate things that then seem to take on personalities and human characteristics of their own. I suspect that is the source of much of poetry!

Trees and flowers, hills and mountains, stars and guitars...all get names eventually if they are important enough to us.
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-08-23 10:36 PM (#402370 - in reply to #402310)
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Originally posted by AlanM:

Trees and flowers, hills and mountains, stars and guitars...all get names eventually if they are important enough to us.
Yep! I haven't named my guitar yet, though.

Michelle
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Jukebox Joe
Posted 2009-08-26 4:04 PM (#402371 - in reply to #402310)
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I love this post! When I only had one guitar (a Tangent at the time) I called her "my wife" after my real wife divorced me. (My new wife was nicer anyway). When I upgraded to two guitars I got all polygamous and called them my two wives. One day someone asked me about one of them "what's her name?" That was a momentous day in my life, because once I named my two axes they became very personal.

I now have 2 and soon to be 3 Elite 1778T's:

Beyonce (because she is black and beautiful), Rosalita (or Rosie) because she is red like a rose, and Nicky (because the pewter reminds me of a nickel).

On the non-O front, my silver Strat is named Sylvia and my Gretsch bass guitar is named Gretchen. And I had a 6778 LX named Lexy (after "LX").

They're easy to remember because the names reflect the color or the name of the guitar.

But as I mentioned, when I gave them a name (especially my two main gigging axes, Beyonce and Rosalita), they became even more a part of me. People even ask me how they're doing! "How's Rosie?"

I don't think everyone should name or not name, or genderize or not genderize, however they see fit! But I agree with Old Man Arthur's comment, it's weird to say "he's a beauty" about a guitar. I would have to say guitars (like cars) tend to sound more feminine.

Rosie and Beyonce are definitely extensions of myself, especially when I lose myself in song. They really become my other half.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-08-26 4:24 PM (#402372 - in reply to #402310)
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James Taylor calls his guitar "he".

"Me and my guitar, always in the same mood

I am mostly flesh and bone, he is mostly wood

Never does grow impatient for the changes I don't know

If he can't go to heaven maybe I don't want to go."


Now let's see, what rhymes with carbon fiber and fiberglass? :D
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-26 4:30 PM (#402373 - in reply to #402310)
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I've finally named my guitars. One's called "the rebuilt Legend", one's called "the 87 Collectors", one's called "the OFC guitar", etc. I think they all like their names.......
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Waskel
Posted 2009-08-26 5:01 PM (#402374 - in reply to #402310)
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Wow, Paul. You get much more personal than I do. I've got the red one, the blue one, the natural one, the nylon-stringed one, the 12 string one, the koa one.
Oh, and the electric one and the new electric one.

It helps in that this way my wife actually knows which one I'm talking about. "1587" or "LongNeck" just gets me a blank look.
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-26 9:15 PM (#402375 - in reply to #402310)
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Originally posted by Joe Tuñón:
I love this post! When I only had one guitar (a Tangent at the time) I called her "my wife" after my real wife divorced me. (My new wife was nicer anyway). When I upgraded to two guitars I got all polygamous and called them my two wives. One day someone asked me about one of them "what's her name?" That was a momentous day in my life, because once I named my two axes they became very personal.

I now have 2 and soon to be 3 Elite 1778T's:

Beyonce (because she is black and beautiful), Rosalita (or Rosie) because she is red like a rose, and Nicky (because the pewter reminds me of a nickel).

On the non-O front, my silver Strat is named Sylvia and my Gretsch bass guitar is named Gretchen. And I had a 6778 LX named Lexy (after "LX").

They're easy to remember because the names reflect the color or the name of the guitar.

But as I mentioned, when I gave them a name (especially my two main gigging axes, Beyonce and Rosalita), they became even more a part of me. People even ask me how they're doing! "How's Rosie?"

I don't think everyone should name or not name, or genderize or not genderize, however they see fit! But I agree with Old Man Arthur's comment, it's weird to say "he's a beauty" about a guitar. I would have to say guitars (like cars) tend to sound more feminine.

Rosie and Beyonce are definitely extensions of myself, especially when I lose myself in song. They really become my other half.
Bingo!

Guitars -- Now it's personal!

Looks as though we cover the gamut in our thoughts about our axes.

I wonder what the "single guy" factor is. I guess, if I were married, I might downplay the fact that "Becky" was sitting on my lap and I was caressing her neck and playing her.
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