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1617
Posted 2009-10-15 11:46 PM (#394423)
Subject: shim bodda bim


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Hi - anyone here experiment with custom shim material? I feel that I need half a shim. It seams logical to me that a shim made from the same wood as the bridge would be optimal. Any thoughts? And while on the subject - anyone ever rodded their guitar (not with electronics or strings) in any way that yielded an appreciable improvement in playability or tone?
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-10-16 12:42 AM (#394424 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast
Originally posted by 1617:
half a shim.
Thickness or length?
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-10-16 1:18 AM (#394425 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim


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Location: Copenhagen Denmark
`Kay , I like t` employ shims made out`a CEDAR-wood ( slightly oiled before use , so as it will not stick ) , coz` I like it ..

HOWEVER !! .. there`s 1 shim made out` a plastic which is TAPERED
( insert the thick end at Low E - and the thin end at high e , NOT the other way `round !! ) , that`s IMPORTANT !! ( it improves PLAYABILITY )...

I wonder if that`s an Ovi invention ??

As for Same material as Bridge , .. X-periment .. Harder / Softer than bridge material.. U Decide what is " Best " ..

.. admission full report to moderators ..

Vic
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Craig_Strums
Posted 2009-10-16 2:02 AM (#394426 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim


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Visiting back after a long absence, and actually this post relates to a question I've got.

My problem is that I'm having trouble with my old Legend; Replaced the on-board electronics this spring, and have been struggling with the new set up being too sensitive. Get feedback very easily.

My last attempt to dampen the sensitivity of the pickup was to shim it, under AND over, with a piece of soft plastic cut from a roll of shelf "paper". It's a little thicker than a credit card (my original idea), but softer.

I have no complaints about the action...raised the action across the board just a skosh. But it did not seem to make any difference at all in the sensitivity. Still feeding back too easily.

- Craig
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-16 2:34 AM (#394427 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim



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Craig, get some feedback buster butt plugs...

Credit Card material is good.
But I use expired Health Care and Food Stamp cards myself!
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Waskel
Posted 2009-10-16 8:19 AM (#394428 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim



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Originally posted by Craig_Strums:
My problem is that I'm having trouble with my old Legend; Replaced the on-board electronics this spring, and have been struggling with the new set up being too sensitive. Get feedback very easily.
What did you replace them with?
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1617
Posted 2009-10-16 1:32 PM (#394429 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim


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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by 1617:
half a shim.
Thickness or length?
thickness
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-10-16 2:02 PM (#394430 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast
Originally posted by 1617:
thickness
Depending on the thickness ya need; credit card, 2 liter soda bottle, milk jug, for starters.
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Craig_Strums
Posted 2009-10-16 5:51 PM (#394431 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim


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Arthur -
either you're having wayyyy too much fun in the bedroom, or I'm not following. What's a feeback buster butt plug? Seriously, dude...

Wabbit - replaced them with factory equipment obtained direct from Ovation. Obviously it's not OEM, just new versions from Ovation that fit this old guitar. Replaced the pre-amp box on the interior (that IS a pre-amp, isn't it?) and the pickup under the bridge. All with the help, advice, and encouragement from members of this forum!

The rubber (soft plastic) shim idea, I have to confess, is entirely my own. No one else to blame for that. But as I said, it didn't seem to make any difference...thought it would 'dampen' the pickup.

- Craig
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-10-16 6:08 PM (#394432 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim



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Arthur's like that and he can't read either :p

Feedback busters are rubber plugs that fit in the multi sound holes on an Elite style guitar.

Not for a Legend with the centre hole.

AJ
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-10-16 6:42 PM (#394433 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim


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But they do make feedback busters for roundhole guitars too. Any good music store should have one in stock.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-10-16 6:53 PM (#394434 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim


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I'm far from an expert on feedback, since I rarely plug in, but I suspect that the pickup isn't the problem. Why would you want to make the pickup less responsive to the top in order to reduce feedback? Did the problem occur before you changed preamps? Ovations are not feedback prone. My understanding of the feedback busters is that they help prevent the sound from the amp from feeding back into the guitar and then through the pickup a second or more time. I don't think the purpose is to deaden the top.
Except on a Martin with a soundhole mic, I've been able to eliminate feedback by turning the volume down, turning away or getting further away from the amp. That's the extent of my knowledge on this topic.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-16 7:06 PM (#394435 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim



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Originally posted by Craig_Strums:
Arthur -
either you're having wayyyy too much fun in the bedroom, or I'm not following. What's a feeback buster butt plug? Seriously, dude...

- Craig
For a center hole guitar, it looks like this...


If you've got any snap-on covers for cat food cans, that might work too.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-10-16 7:33 PM (#394436 - in reply to #394423)
Subject: Re: shim bodda bim


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I think this feedback prob. is Electric , there`s something ye said :

" Replaced the on-board electronics this spring,and have been struggling with the new set up being TOO SENSITIVE . "

What Mod. Pre-amp. and PU did ye replace it with ?

Perhaps someone here knows it/them .

Why did ye replace the assembly ?

Vic

.. I doubt that blockbusters or catfood will solve that prob. ..
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