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The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson

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bauerhillboy
Posted 2009-10-19 7:38 AM (#394117)
Subject: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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Just to clarify...and Al will appreciate me saying this, the whole "Joisey" thing is really an old-New York Brooklyn thing. There was a tiny bit of Jersey around the river close to Hoboken and the surrounding area where people spoke like that. I believe Bugs Bunny was from Hoboken, and he did more than anyone to make the "talk" famous.

Anyway, I'm from the Hackensack/Paramus area...only about 25 miles away from the area in question...and I never spoke like that. Al doesn't, either. Neither does anyone else on this board who comes from the Garden State (Now THAT is funny!)

Not to say that Jersey isn't an easy target for jokes.
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-10-19 8:13 AM (#394118 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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Definitely. I've been to Jersey quite a few times (Seaside Point, Wildwood, Atlantic City) and don't remember anyone saying Joisey!

I once had a relative in WV tell me that for NJ drivers, signals are considered optional equipment on cars! ;-)

Michelle
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2009-10-19 8:39 AM (#394119 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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Those of you who are into "elocutionary-correctness" ;) will be relieved to know that though I can speak with said accent if I so choose, it is not part of my normal speech practices.
It could just have easily been the "Juhsey Jam," courtesy of our friends Down East, but, being geographically closer to the area of New York referred to above, I borrowed that one.
Now, back to the business at hand...preparing for the real thing!

--Karen
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alpep
Posted 2009-10-19 10:37 AM (#394120 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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Joe piscopo is the modern day jerk that made the whole joisey or however you want to say or spell it popular.

I know NO ONE from New Jersey that speaks that way although I am sure there are some in the area specified above.

In the greater philly area we get
zinc for sink
akame for acme
beuteaful for beutiful
code for cold
odsmobile for oldsmobile

and there are a few others. Somehow I never picked up that vocabulary.

Linguistics is rather intersting and reagonalisms etc but the Jersey thing just rubs me the wrong way because it implies stupidity.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-10-19 10:52 AM (#394121 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson
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To be honest, the only real life 'Joiseyisms' I've heard were NYers 'mocking' their neighbors.
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Depa07
Posted 2009-10-19 11:04 AM (#394122 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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And none of this is exclusive to New Jersey either. I was born and raised in Minnesota. If I had a nickle for every time someone approached me speaking in their version of a Scandinavian accent I could retire. There's not a Scandinavian bone in my body...but that's folks impression of Minnesota. It's true for other states too.
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-10-19 11:06 AM (#394123 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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Originally posted by Guitarzannie:
Definitely. I've been to Jersey quite a few times (Seaside Point, Wildwood, Atlantic City) and don't remember anyone saying Joisey!

I once had a relative in WV tell me that for NJ drivers, signals are considered optional equipment on cars! ;-)

Michelle
Duh! That was supposed to be Seaside Heights. I got it crossed with Point Pleasant!

Y'all still talk funny though. :D
:D

One thing I would like to know is: Why we drive on a parkway and park in a driveway?

Michelle
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-10-19 4:21 PM (#394124 - in reply to #394117)
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Did n`t know there were many Scandinavians in Minnesota ... or a Scandinavian accent ..
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-10-19 4:36 PM (#394125 - in reply to #394117)
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It's all Garrison Keillors fault.


....and, just so you know, Canadians are the only ones with no accent, eh?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-19 4:40 PM (#394126 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson



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Don't let it bring you down...

Very few people that I knew in the Boston area really talked like the Kennedy's.
But we will say cah, and yahd, and bah, and beyah, but it is an inside joke!

"Weir gowin down to Haavid Squayah and goof on the towists and drink a few beyahs, howbowchu?"

It's a JOKE! Proliferated by the locals for the entertainment of the locals.
Just some of the locals get upset when the foreigners start saying the same thing.
"You can't say that! You ain't from here!"

Now, some of them Old Rednecks down where my Mom lives...
They Really talk like characters from HeeHaw.

[I thought everybody in PA was Quaker whose native tongue is German? Not counting Philly]
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-10-19 4:46 PM (#394127 - in reply to #394117)
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If a fun converstion about who talks right gets a little serious, my trump card is...
"Hey.. who sounds more like Walter Cronkite, you or me?"
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Waskel
Posted 2009-10-19 4:49 PM (#394128 - in reply to #394117)
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Originally posted by FlicKreno aka Solid Top:
Did n`t know there were many Scandinavians in Minnesota ... or a Scandinavian accent ..
...that's "Minnisoota"...
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-10-19 4:52 PM (#394129 - in reply to #394117)
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OK ... but ... why is it that whenever they find a dead body in New Jersey the mouth is always duct-taped shut?
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cliff
Posted 2009-10-19 4:58 PM (#394130 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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cuz it's usually a stripper that can't shut the f@ck up.
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2009-10-19 5:32 PM (#394131 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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There used to be a decided Neeyou Hampsha accent--we lived there when our son was born, and it was really easy to tell the folks whose families had been there for generations from the folks like us who were transplants from NJ, NY, CT and RI. Not the same as Bahston or Pwahtland, but still noticeably there.
And, if my tongue-in-cheek take on where I'm from twists anyone's knickers enough that they're uncomfortable, of course I'll change it.

--Karen
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Losov
Posted 2009-10-19 5:52 PM (#394132 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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I grew up speaking with a NY accent. Now when I go back there I find it really irritating. When I started doing theater I took an interest in accents. Some are easy, some are more difficult. One difficult thing I had to do was re-learn my NY accent for a show. It's NOT like riding a bike.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-10-19 8:17 PM (#394133 - in reply to #394117)
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I was born and reared South of Bahston and when I came out West in the middle of eighth grade I was promptly told that the letter "Ah/R" was not a vowel!

I also had to learn to say Howdy, Pop and Garbage in lieu of Hey, Tonic and Rubbish.

BTW - it's Scandehoovians!
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MWoody
Posted 2009-10-19 8:18 PM (#394134 - in reply to #394117)
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And it was Joe Piscapo and Blondie in a skit on SNL were they were both from "Joisey" and worked in a Chemical Plant.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-10-19 8:23 PM (#394135 - in reply to #394117)
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Originally posted by Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1:

if my tongue-in-cheek take on where I'm from twists anyone's knickers enough that they're uncomfortable, of course I'll change it.

--Karen
Now that`s U K English .. had no idea that U were an English object , maddam ..

.. observed by a nonscandeheemian residing in scandehumphia ..
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-10-19 9:34 PM (#394136 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
OK ... but ... why is it that whenever they find a dead body in New Jersey the mouth is always duct-taped shut?
That sounds like something Red Green would do, only he's Canadian! :D

Michelle
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-10-19 9:36 PM (#394137 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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Woody, in some parts of the country, you live in Warshington.
One of my best friends in law school was from Jersey City. His accent was one of the less funny things about him, but he could lay on the Joisey accent pretty heavy if he wanted to, just like most Texans or Southern Belles.
The movie "Fargo" really hammed up the North Dakota/Minnesota accent, hey. My uncle has lived in Oregon for 50 years, but he still says "hey" at the end of sentences, from his days growing up in Wisconsin.
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cholloway
Posted 2009-10-20 12:11 AM (#394138 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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"Is it possible that the two yutes..."

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I found the locals on the N.C. "Outer Banks" have a VERY distinctive accent. It's hard to describe.
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2009-10-20 8:20 AM (#394139 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson


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Shouldn't that read, "Is it possible that the two UTEs"? ;) :D

--Karen
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-10-20 8:37 AM (#394140 - in reply to #394117)
Subject: Re: The truth about "Joisey": A history lesson
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I grew up in Asbury Park/Belmar area (exit 102) and to be honest never really noticed much of an accent. That's about midway between NYC and Philly so maybe the two influences cancel out. Occasionally I do find myself saying "wok da dawgk".

A good neighbor of mine in Phoenix is a transplanted Long Island jew. You should hear the wife's accent. It's the most stereotypical thing you could ever possibly imagine. Almost comical and nobody laughs harder about it than her. I call her "Amy Fisher's Voice Coach".
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