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| +1 Arthur, nice summary.
My one bad experience buying a guitar off eBay (chronicled here a couple of years ago), the item was SNAD (Significantly Not As Described). I tried politely negotiating with the seller, was blown off, and filed a SNAD with PayPal's and eBay's Dispute Resolution Center. I described the issues (without emotion or name-calling), supplied the original listing, all communications I had with the seller before and after the sale, and hi-res pictures of all the non-disclosed issues with the guitar. After about a month, PayPal found in my favor and forced the seller to take back the guitar and refund my money. |
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Location: Colorado | +1 on what OMA said. If you paid with PayPal in an eBay auction you should be covered for the full purchase price. I have used the eBay resolution center before with success and it took about a week to get sorted out, but it wasn't for a guitar.
I feel for you since your expectations were not met at all. This guitar spent just enough time in the wrong hands.
Personally, I would be willing to pay to ship it back and get my $500 back. There may be underlying problems that haven't made themselves known yet, too.
Keep us posted--best of luck. |
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by WillaMuse:
Fly, "Typical"? Really? I think that is a GREAT price for that guitar.
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I think the buyer got a pretty good deal, unless there are other problems with her.
Perhaps my post wasn't clear. I don't know what an average price is today for that guitar. If, as you say, the price is low for that guitar, then the deal might be acceptable in dollar terms. The buyer needs to do some homework to determine if $500 is fair for a guitar with that much undisclosed damage. |
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Location: Colorado | G8r slipped in there while I was typing. So +2 on what OMA said.
And Sig is right. This is totally subject to what the buyer thinks is acceptable. Would I have paid $500 knowing what we all know now? Certainly not. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Bad bumps but still a nice guitar and not a bad price. If you are in NH it might be worth a trip to CT for the best possible work.
Poly finish is tricky but if the bad dings are cleaned out and the wodd steamed/expanded then drop filled with Cyano they would be less noticeable.
Just play the crap out of it. |
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Location: Utica, NY | I also agree wholeheartedly with OMA and others that you were mislead and if those things bug you every time you pick it up (as they would me regardless of price) I'd be looking for a return. It seems to me that dings would be very hard to make look right.
It was an incident with an E-Bay purchase the brought me here the first time for advice and it was OMA's 'fatherly' to either (and I paraphrase) sh*t or get off and ship complaining advice that launched me into action. PayPal was extremely helpful and responsive and while I lost the return shipping I was happy (as it was said earlier) to recoup the majority of my purchase price.
FWIW, I have found that guitars that I have purchased outside this group have always been a risk and everyone that I have bought (and sold) within the group has been outstanding in every way because, I believe, there's a caring, an integrity and accountability amongst the group that avoids all the outside non-sense associated with this kind of transaction. It's fun to 'bring one home' from the outside but there are risks. I am holding my breath on one right now.
Good luck and go get your money back! |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I have been watching Ovations on Ebay for the last 9 years, and I have found that the SSB Elites and CLs in decent condition go for between $400-500. With the amount of damage on this one I'd call it a $400 guitar.(IF there is no structural damage, i.e., separated bracing, raised bridge, warped neck)Get an inspection mirror and a light and inspect the interior. Also check out the neck really well. If those things check out well and you can live with the dings and surface cracks, then you could request an additional 50 bucks to deal with the cosmetic damages. In the areas where the dings have exposed the bare wood, I personally would match the color with some artist gloss acrylic colors, apply the paint, then wipe off the excess and finish over it in the method mentioned above by the factory. If the sound of the shallow bowl doesn't float your boat in the next 24 hours, return it for a full refund, because you'll be kickin' yourself in the head later for not getting a medium or deep bowl. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Motives and truth are some of the best reasons to shop within the OFC. I try to offer those in my Ebay sales as well but you can't always tell in the online market.
It's like buying a dog. Around here your getting a family member, fleas or not.
By the way - I like that CL and if you want to trade it away take a look in my Ning site albums and see what catches your eye. |
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