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MusicMishka
Posted 2011-02-04 2:49 PM (#356501 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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I didn't spend much time with it...just made sure it wasn't damaged in shipping...it was perfect just like the seller said...I played it for a few minutes before re-packing it for the over the pond journey...it sounded nice: a lot of bass for a classical and plugged in I am sure it will sound stellar. The cedar top is gorgeous. Very wide neck...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2011-02-04 3:03 PM (#356502 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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I would imagine this would be hugely different from the Viper nylons or most other classicals for that matter. If someone wants a classical classical, this wouldn't be it. Neither would the Ovation Classics. I like the Ovation Classics, but people who want the light sound of a Flamenco or Spanish classical guitar don't.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2011-02-04 3:11 PM (#356503 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France



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I will someday try a classical nylon sound, but everything else about the guitar will be typical Prof: SSB or chambered hybrid, top shelf electronics, and plugged in.
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joelguitare
Posted 2011-02-05 1:11 AM (#356504 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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Hello,
the seller told me it's a med bowl.
Ovation or Adamas, this is a wonderful classical guitar.
I will tell more when she arrives in France.
And thank you Mike

best regards
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MusicMishka
Posted 2011-02-05 8:27 AM (#356505 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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Joel, I think the bowl is a medium now that I look at the pictures again...I literally only had it out for a couple of pic's and to see if it was as pristine as it was claimed to be...still, a nice addition.
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stephent28
Posted 2011-02-05 11:45 AM (#356506 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France



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Joel, I am sure it is a terrific guitar and I wasn't trying to cast aspersions on your purchase.

I was just merely stating my thoughts on wondering why it was considered an Adamas....other than the name on the headstock.

I look forward to hearing your review once you receive it.
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hwebster
Posted 2011-02-05 12:50 PM (#356507 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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noah
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posted February 04, 2011 02:08 AM
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I was corrected when I said the Adamas 2081WT, with its wood top, was not an Adamas. We've generally seen graphite tops on Adamas guitars, but it appears that graphite was not a requisite.
Mike/Joel, what did the maker put on the label? Just curious..
Congratulations on your new guitar!
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hwebster
Posted 2011-02-05 1:47 PM (#356508 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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Interesting discussion on this thread
close up digital picture of the Adamas top
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Jérôme
Posted 2011-02-05 3:22 PM (#356509 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France



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Congrats, very nice guitar and I'm looking forward to hear it played by you Joël!!! ;)

Mine is closer to a Country Artist with an Adamas fretboard than a Classic like Joël's guitar.
She's now hanging in the main room of my house and I'm playing it as often as possible.
It doesn't matter to me if it's an Ovation or an Adamas, it's a fantastic guitar.
And when you see the cut of an Adamas top, it's funny to see that wood is the main part of this top so Adamas or Ovation???
We had the same discussion in France and both opinions are represented.
To my own opinion, it's a little bit simplistic to summarize an Adamas only with its top, it's much more than this but it's only my opinion... :rolleyes:
At the end, I'm very glad to see Adamas Wood Top models for 2011.

J :)

Here's a picture of mine:



J :)
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MusicMishka
Posted 2011-02-05 5:55 PM (#356510 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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Mike/Joel, what did the maker put on the label? Just curious..
It's the Adamas Label...the whiteout covers the previous owners name (Custom Made for.....)



Jerome, I am glad to see them making guitars period...and you have to admit, they do look fantastic...
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Avatar4550
Posted 2011-02-06 7:26 AM (#356511 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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Has anyone ever explained why an Adamas Classical with a graphite top wouldn't fly? Were there any made? I remember hearing something about there being at least one out there (a proto?).

I would have thought a graphite top on a classical would be very responsive? Sure someone here would know...

:confused:
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Bluebird
Posted 2011-02-06 10:46 AM (#356512 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France



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Who was this made for? Why would anyone go to the bother of whiting out the name on the label?
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Jérôme
Posted 2011-02-06 11:58 AM (#356513 - in reply to #356476)
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It does exist at least THIS ONE custom built for Sigi Schwab.

J :)

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Jérôme
Posted 2011-02-06 12:02 PM (#356514 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France



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And THIS ONE TOO who is a SSB but I'm not sure that it was not modified after leaving the factory. :rolleyes:

J :)

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2011-02-06 8:13 PM (#356515 - in reply to #356476)
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There's also this one, built in about 1980 for ol' whatshisname. It now lives in SoCal, but sadly, not with me....
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noah
Posted 2011-02-06 8:52 PM (#356516 - in reply to #356476)
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Ok... but are there any graphite topped ones like Joel's Adamas with that 12-fret, wide flat board?
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hwebster
Posted 2011-02-07 12:15 AM (#356517 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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Paul,
That is a nice nylon Adamas. I would love to try how the sound is on this guitar. Some day I get a nylon like these ones.
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FlySig
Posted 2011-02-07 10:07 AM (#356518 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France



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There was one for sale about a year ago here in Utah. -5 top, round hole, flat wide fretboard. It was brand new and heavily damaged in shipment. It wasn't playable so I don't know how it would have sounded.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2011-02-07 11:49 AM (#356519 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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Originally posted by hwebster:
Paul,
That is a nice nylon Adamas. I would love to try how the sound is on this guitar. Some day I get a nylon like these ones.
Hector, it sounds ok unplugged. Any super shallow bowl is only going to sound ok unplugged (I've played exceptions to that rule, but they are only exceptions). It's plugged in where it shines.

That particular guitar was one of a matched set built for Glen Campbell in about 1980. They may have been the first ssb guitars built by Ovation. The other guitar is a steel string and it's now up in Canada. Both belong to members of the OFC.

The nylon string feels wider than the standard CA 1 7/8", more like 2", even tho' it's a 14 fretter. Campbell played it for several years then traded it (at least this is the story I heard) to a member of his church who owned a pawn shop, for a Fender Jaguar. The person who bought it from the shop had the fret markers put on and played it for a number of years before putting it on ebay. The current owner bought it there.
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TJR
Posted 2011-02-07 12:23 PM (#356520 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France



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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I really really hate to say this, but I'm with Stephen on this. Wood topped w/ multi sound holes means an Elite. An Adamas has a carbon graphite top. Period.
I'm late to the debate here, but here's a thought, Isn't an original Adamas top really only about 25% carbon fiber and 75% birch veneer. (ie. wood?) The early WTA proto I have does have some carbon fiber on the braces, granted very little. TJR
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2011-02-07 1:06 PM (#356521 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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Originally posted by TJR:
Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I really really hate to say this, but I'm with Stephen on this. Wood topped w/ multi sound holes means an Elite. An Adamas has a carbon graphite top. Period.
I'm late to the debate here, but here's a thought, Isn't an original Adamas top really only about 25% carbon fiber and 75% birch veneer. (ie. wood?) The early WTA proto I have does have some carbon fiber on the braces, granted very little. TJR
A good point. It's the carbon fiber that gives it strength and the birch that helps with the tone. But it's also the carbon fiber that gives it it's name and identity.
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TJR
Posted 2011-02-07 8:30 PM (#356522 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France



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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Originally posted by TJR:
Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I really really hate to say this, but I'm with Stephen on this. Wood topped w/ multi sound holes means an Elite. An Adamas has a carbon graphite top. Period.
I'm late to the debate here, but here's a thought, Isn't an original Adamas top really only about 25% carbon fiber and 75% birch veneer. (ie. wood?) The early WTA proto I have does have some carbon fiber on the braces, granted very little. TJR
A good point. It's the carbon fiber that gives it strength and the birch that helps with the tone. But it's also the carbon fiber that gives it it's name and identity.
I have to agree in principle simply because of the Adamas latin translation and the marketing brochure...
The Adamas models, meant to be top of the line, really had a more unique top than any other guitar. That was the real innovation rather that the carved neck, bridge etc. Not to forget the carbon fiber in the necks.

Is the "Q" model the only true Adamas?

The earliest WTA proto's did have Adamas cloth bowls, producton adamas walknut necks, and the 13 piece epi's & suspension ring.
The Elite model may not have even been named yet so they really are just a wood topped Adamas-like guitar. The missing link. I'd argue that years ago there were people who simply assumed a guitar with Epi's equalled Adamas. The 1537 really opened up a whole can of worms for future variants, followed by the later numerous celeb. models
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joelguitare
Posted 2011-02-13 1:27 PM (#356523 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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Here more photos.
the guitar is fabulous and very easy to play.
The sound is powerful.
https://picasaweb.google.com/joelguitare666/ADAMASClassicalCustom
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hwebster
Posted 2011-02-13 9:00 PM (#356524 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France


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Joel,
It looks really nice and good the sound is loud. By looking at the pictures D,A and E strings seem to be strings for acoustic guitar? but I could be wrong. I would change with those for a classical guitar and the sound will be different and mellow with that beautiful cedar top.
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Arnaud
Posted 2011-02-27 1:03 PM (#356525 - in reply to #356476)
Subject: Re: Custom Adamas Classical in France



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Adamas concept without steel and carbon.
Something is missing but this is my own opinion.
However it looks very nice with guts and cedar top.
Hope to play this beauty one day, congrats Joël !
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