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Location: Sweden | Hi !
I have this Ovation 1867 Legend shallow cutaway 4-HFX guitar (very nice), with serial #: 434805.
They where made 1999-2001, related to the "decoder"-list. http://www.ovationfanclub.com/decoder.htm ......... ok
But, if you look in the "prices"-list, it says they where made 1998-2000 http://www.ovationfanclub.com/files/prices.asp ........ hmmmmm ?
And here I have the real problem, the serial number says that the guitar was made 1991 http://www.ovationfanclub.com/serials.asp ??????
Something is wrong........... can we do something about this, and can/will someone explain to me ????
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Location: closely held secret | 1st: Welcome to the OFC.
2nd: Is the serial stamped on the headstock?
The methods of dating Ovations can sometimes be in error, but usually not like this.
How long have you had this guitar? If you got it used I can think of two possibilities - the neck was replaced at some point, or the Hex-FX preamp was added at some point. |
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Location: Sweden | Hi and thank you for your reply to my question.
No the serialnumber is placed above the ovation model and manufacturing label inside the body. It´s an "aluminium metalic" label with black print. The guitar is entirely original. And it´s a shallow body model, so it must be a model from the late 90´s........ well, anyway, something is wrong with the "decoder" and/or the "prices" list on our Ovation site. Maybe you have some other thoughts now...... Thank you, anyway, for your consideration. |
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Location: Texas | something is wrong with the "decoder" and/or the "prices" list on our Ovation site. I think Ovation has always been a little lax at documentation of serial/model classification. I recently inquired on the total # of 40th Anniversary K1111 produced and was told "about xx". That production was in 2006.
I believe the serial and Ovation model data we have was compiled by dedicated OFC'ers.
Unless you are the original owner, the possibility is twofold...your guitar may not be the same guitar that originally left the factory or it could show the database needs revision. Your serial is certainly an earlier serial than the HFX's registered by OFCers.
Nonetheless...very cool model to have. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Hi Ebstrid,
When did you purchase the guitar? As you say it's entirely original, I assume you are the original owner and knowing that date will maybe help.
The Decoder and Price Guide were both derived primarily from retail price sheets that Ovation published to their sellers, along with some real world knowledge from members who fall into various categories from owner of the original guitars to people who originally built them... and one guy that owned a gas station :)
The serial number list is based on information supplied by Ovation and is probably the most accurate for dating an instrument. I would put my money on your guitar having been made in 1991.
Was the guitar sitting around for a few years before adding the HFX pre-amp and then sold? That sounds possible to me, but I don't really know. It seems somewhat logical that the pre-amp would be built, and then installed into guitars that were already made, until they needed to make more of that model guitar. Just a hunch.
Is yours an early prototype? Another possibility. Before the HFX was actually released into the wild, did they build models to test. I'm sure they did, but is yours one of them and hence the older serial number? Who knows at this point.
As Jay posted... "Nonetheless...very cool model to have. "
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Location: Sweden | Hi friends !
Thank you for taking time.
No I´m not the first owner but the former owner told me that she bought the guitar new. I can´t communicate with her any longer, because I have not her name, address or phonenumber longer. I cant´t think that she, or some other person, have modified the guitar. I don´t remember what she told me, but she said to me what the date for purchasing was..... but I don´t remember. I bought the guitar from the US (eBay) and I live in Sweden, so we have a little geografic problem here too.... (-; (Hope you understand my english)
Still, I don´t think there was shallow bodies in the beginning of the 90´s...or ? I have tried to link picture of my guitar, maybe it helps. Clic on or write in the internet address below:
http://jalbum.net/a/1106738/
Good Night from Sweden |
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Location: Tennessee | That's an OP24 preamp, not HexFX. OP24 was the standard bearer for years and was the correct preamp for a guitar built in 1991. Problem solved. |
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Location: Sweden | OK ! Thank you "bobbo", fast replic, now I begin to understand. But I don´t really know what "shallow body" means, I thought that was what mine guitar has, but in the "decoder" list is says that it´s a deep one........ But one little detail, in the "decoder" list, again, it says there is NO cutaway, but obviously, that´s wrong....or is it something more I don´t understand, maybe ? (-: (Or, maybe, there is 1867 models with both non cutaway + deep body and cutaway + shallow body.)
Good Night, again, folks ! |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | I think the error is with the decoder. The 1867-HexFX stats are correct for yours (with the exception that it's an OP24). |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by TAFKAR:
I think the error is with the decoder. The 1867-HexFX stats are correct for yours (with the exception that it's an OP24). +1 YUP I update things as they are pointed out. I think the serials page needs to include 67 as "Legend" in the coding, and that would clear things up because 18xx = is Acoustic/Electric Shallow Bowl.
It clearly states 1867 on the label not 1867-HFX and it has obviously an OP24 pre-amp as an 1867 of that era should.
As always, a picture the best identifier. |
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Location: Sweden | Hi !
Thanks to all of you.
Have a great day ! |
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Ovation 1867 Legend 4-HFX. Problem
