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Location: Denton, Texas | I'm SINCERELY in the market for a Deacon 12-string in the $1,000 to $1,300 range. Slightly more if it is an EXCELLENT/VERY FINE instrument. |
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Location: Las Vegas | Check your e-mail ASAP.
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Location: Tennessee | There's one on eBay right now ...
Deacon 12 on eBay |
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Location: SoCal | This is the one where the reserve is up over 2 grand. |
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Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | I think George has already made the seller an offer but I think the seller is holding out for more(?).....
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Location: . | That is my guitar I have been getting international offers from Spain, Italy Germany and Japan for close to $3500 I was hoping to get that much from a US bidder. I have been getting close to 10 emails a day from collectors and guitar shops since I put the Deacon up. I think I might be better off sitting on it for a few more years |
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Location: SoCal | I'm absolutely amazed by this. These have been selling in the $600-$800 range for the last number of years. If you can get $3500 for it internationally, then you ought to go for it. This bidding is similar to two Preacher 12's that both went recently in the $1100 range. The third one that sold after that went for just under $600.
About a year ago I bought my Preacher 12 for $600 and was worried that I had spent too much for it. Was I wrong or did I buy just before the market started up?
But the international market for Ovations has always been stronger than the domestic market.
If I may ask, what was your reserve and how did you decide on it? |
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Location: Denton, Texas | May I deduce from your post that your "Reserve" was $3500 ? I'm glad I stopped bidding at the $2000 level! The next highest bid was $1601 so I don'd feel Toooo Stupid. I wonder if this is a stint by a kid on his daddy's computer? Ha! |
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Location: . | No I am not a kid and the reserve was not $3500. In just putting the 12 string on my homepage I was starting to get unreal offers and some real bad ones. Some offers from "artists" that have well over 2K, that thought I would sell the guitar to them dirt cheap because I would be starstruck by their names. The most insulting offer was $250. THere are some better pictures of it on my homepage Manland I have already been slammed for copying the description from another website so I will tell you know the description is by Harald Milz |
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Location: SoCal | I wouldn't be insulted by a low offer...easy to reject. In the last year, the couple that have gone onto eBay have varied a lot in price. If I remember correctly, a nice one went for about $650. All depends on what buyers are looking at the time and what value the seller places on it. Personally, I thought $700-$750 would be the high bid but I knew the value is more. Guess that is the problem with an auction. |
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Location: . | The insult is someone thinking I would sell it to them for nothing because they are a country music star |
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Location: Las Vegas | I think you should sit on it for a long time. I got the last one on eBay, an absolutely beautiful mint pure mahoghany marvel for $730 (I should post the pictures, they're breathtaking.). Not to say there aren't idiots out there (there's a sucker born every minute), but before you sell to someone overseas, make sure you get the cash in hand first. I'm betting someone is yanking someone's chain, and hard.
The amazing thing is just how much these "incredibly rare" ovations have been showing up on eBay with quite increasing regularity recently, especially since all the guitar shops and pawn shops are getting net-savvy.
Les
Originally posted by Securb:
That is my guitar I have been getting international offers from Spain, Italy Germany and Japan for close to $3500 I was hoping to get that much from a US bidder. I have been getting close to 10 emails a day from collectors and guitar shops since I put
the Deacon up. I think I might be better off sitting on it for a few more years |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Due to the dollar and also that fact that in general, the folks overseas just seem to appreciate a quality instrument a little more, or at least are willing to put there money where the picks are.
As we have talked about often, take a Preacher for example, and find a comparable USA Made guitar of this quality with an ebony fretboard for under $1000, but rarely do they sell for over $500.
It's the same for the acoustics. I understand an Adamas I in Japan goes for over $2,500, but try getting someone in the states to pay that. |
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Location: Las Vegas | Interesting. And even more interesting that I didn't have to go up against any foreign bidders nor did any end up bidding for this one on eBay.
It's also been my experience that sellers who demand more than eBay market value, no matter the reason, end up with their stuff unsold, and strangely wonder why.
I've found the majority of eBay sellers willing to deal after three or four futile relistings though, especially when they've been out of touch with reality.
Not implying that's the case here specifically, you understand.
Les
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | I noticed some incredible "ravings" from people on the Harmony Central boards and I bet that the Harmony Central reviews are read quite regularly by overseas buyers.. especially in the UK. That's probably why the "sudden" popularity! But having watched these guitars go "up and down" for the past 12 years I can say with some accuracy that this is VERY temporary. These guitars aren't as rare as people are thinking. I picked up two of them in the last month. Both mint. One tobaccoburst for $450 and a rare cherry one for $850 so GIVE ME THE EMAILS of those supposed high buyers! I'm ready to sell for $3500 !!! No problemo! Ahahahahaa! |
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | You make an "excellent" point Les!
Even moreso because I just discovered an email where "supposedly" this 12 string in question was offered to someone AFTER the end of the auction for half the $1601 !!!!
WOW... are rumours just flying or is this a last stich effort to get more than $1000 for a great but quite common 12 string electric!
Want something GREATER and more popular for so many GREAT reasons?
Go for a Rickenbacker! Right? Ahahahaha
Best Regards!
MJK
Originally posted by xbj:
[QB]Interesting. |
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Location: Las Vegas | Well, as a much-needed "reality check", I uploaded my first pics to the gallery, the gorgeous $730 12-string. Don't know if they have to go through an approval process or I just muffed it up, I can't find them in there yet, but hopefully soon they'll appear so we can all see what $730 should get you on eBay. That's not even a steal, really. $200 would be bragging.
No, I think $730 is just your good basic midline reality check.
Les
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Location: SoCal | Les,
Didn't realize I had been bidding against you back then. Gonna just lurk around for a good deal as a scavenger. Other than new, highest I have had to pay is $650 and that was the 6759 CL 12.
Keep telling myself patience. One day, there will be two or three listed at same time. Then the sharks will attack. Ah, the conflict of a buyer seeking the best value and a seller who values what he is selling. |
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Location: Las Vegas | No problem at all Tony... you more than made up for it, and I didn't mind for a bit paying it either (well, once it arrived ) !
I was just hoping that I hadn't been going against George here!
We'll find both you guys some more... they might be rare, but not THAT rare, and there's still a ton in shops that have sat there for years unsold.
Les
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Location: SoCal | as to relisting, note that the GREEN Custom Legend is now back on after ? three previous listings...acually bidding on it. If reserve is more reasonable, good guitar for St. Patrick's day. |
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Location: Denton, Texas | I finally found an "Exceptional" hiqh quality Deacon 12-string to satisfy my cravings and will post a pic when it arrives. Thanks to the guidance of moody.pi and others education on the relative and market value, I believe that although I paid top dollar that I did not get stung anywhere near the amount that I would have been embarassed to admit to after the fact. :cool: |
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Location: Las Vegas | FANTASTIC news!!! Congratulations!! Looking forward to the pics!
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Location: Denton, Texas | I have posted a picture of the Deacon-12 in the Member Access area under "George" where yhou will also find out"The rest of the story". :cool: |
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Location: . | Originally posted by Akimboalogo:
You make an "excellent" point Les!
Even moreso because I just discovered an email where "supposedly" this 12 string in question was offered to someone AFTER the end of the auction for half the $1601 !!!!
WOW... are rumours just flying or is this a last stich effort to get more than $1000 for a great but quite common 12 string electric!
Want something GREATER and more popular for so many GREAT reasons?
Go for a Rickenbacker! Right? Ahahahaha
Best Regards!
MJK
Originally posted by xbj:
[QB]Interesting.
I still have the 12 string it isnt going any where now I just have to learn how to tune it |
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