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Location: Nashville | Hi OFC people,
A little less than a year ago I sold an Ovation 12 string through the forum with the help of Paul Moody. At this time I am paring down my collection further and am considering selling a 28.5" scale (nut to saddle) black Adamas 12 string with case. There is not a ding or scratch on the instrument. I have URLs below for jpgs. There is a handwritten label on the inside back that was hard to get a good photo of.
It reads: This is the 3rd "D" 12 string guitar made( the 2nd Adamas "D" 12 string) completed Feb. 1996 Charles Kaman II
The guitar has been tuned down a full step (D model) and sounds, of course, truly majestic. It has gold Schallers, XLR and 1/4" jacks and is truly stunning in appearance in sound.
If anyone has been looking for a long scale 12, feel free to check out the jpgs., ask questions, and/or make me an offer. I thought I would put this guitar in front of the OFC before listing it on eBay since my experience last time was good. Here are the jpgs:
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Location: Nashville | Third and final try at formatting hyperlinking. Very sorry for the clumsiness.
http://www.bigmediacircus.com/Ovation/ADAMAS-front-web.jpg
http://www.bigmediacircus.com/Ovation/ADAMAS-back-web.jpg
http://www.bigmediacircus.com/Ovation/ADAMAS-label-web.jpg
http://www.bigmediacircus.com/Ovation/ADAMAS12-case-web.jpg
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I fixed your post. You had forgotten the / in the end url tags. It's easier if you just use the "URL" button and paste the links in. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | So now we know where 2 of the six are at! Ever since CWK2 mentioned his I have been thinking what a wonderful instrument it would be. Funds are lacking and I was planning to custom a Baritone Carbon top with LX features in a couple of years.
This is a historical and lovely instrument. I hope it goes to a home where it is played and enjoyed (and recorded?). Great pics too. |
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Location: SoCal | jmc, please send me your email or call me at 619-465-0708.
Thanks... |
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| hey mwoody, perhaps Adrian Legg and Preston Reed got two of them...
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Location: Converse, Texas | So whatcha askin' for it? |
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Location: SoCal | Does anyone here have any idea of what this should sell for? I know, obviously, the highest bidder. :cool:
However...Mark has given us the first opportunity which is appreciated.
It is rare, unique, with excellent workmanship; however there is also a limited market for it. Not much info on it in OFC archive or web. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Something to consider, open and honest and without a wealth of knowledge admitedly:
What would it take to reproduce it? My attempt at finding out (2 months ago) what was available to do this - with some compromises - was about $3200 Retail ($2200 Reality?). Besides not having an abundance of guitar funds, I have decided to hold out until the newer technology allows for a deep/Full bowl and appropriate neck. It is the effect I am after and not the history.
Is it reproducable? Yes, at some cost. The art is not lost and the craftsman are still available.
Historically - these instruments are somewhat tucked away and are not featured by any specialty Artist with any great success. But for the Historian or Instrument Epicurian they are unique to say the least.
The largest claim for fame is that it is an original of six.
As they would say on the PBS "Road show" between $1500 and $2500 until this genre of art is fully appreciated.
For love of the instrument I would give it to a recording artist that would use it to it's potential (Popcritic, are you listening?). Maybe a loan would be more suitable! That would cause others to be made and would boost the value of the originals.
For financial gain alone I would advertise it in a Tokyo newpaper as much as I find that idea disturbing.
I did not mean to injure any feelings. Pretty soon someone who knows what they're talking about should post. |
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Location: SoCal | injure any feelings?
Heck, sounded rational...an articulate evaluation. I would love to have it but if I don't get it I would also love to see someone some day on stage performing with it. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Thanks Tony. I can see a separation here with the roles we play on this board. There are Collectors, Consumers and a whole lot of undecided wishers or Watchers. I know I cannot dedicate that much resource to collecting. I play for free. I guess that makes me a Watcher.
The question then is... which are you?
I want to see this beautiful instrument in the hands of a first class Consumer. If not, it should be preserved by a Collector.
I'm just going to have to watch... for now. :( |
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Location: SoCal | There are roles, poorly defined due to GAS and unique opportunities. For me, my limitation will probably be wall space as I want to see and play them. About the time I settle down, another beautiful example of Ovation craftsmanship just appears and it is GAS, GAS, GAS.
I agree, this instrument should be on the stage...however, if no one steps up, the Callimachus Adoption Agency may step in. (Greek Callimachus changed to Calman at Ellis Island.) |
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Location: Converse, Texas | jmc: Email me with your phone number. I have a friend interested in the guitar. |
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Location: NJ | jmc I e mailed you when you first posted this message and you never replied.
please contact me
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Location: Nashville | My apologies for not setting a sales price on this Adamas 12 string. You people know a lot more about the current value of these great guitars and I am still in the initial step of getting educated on that.
Several members have asked the price and I am still trying to figure that one out. Maybe my post should have been a research/appraisal question rather than a sales announcement. I am having to do this in steps.
Thanks for all the posts--I will figure this out ! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | So, jmc is from Nashville. That's where 4 of these went. (Adrian and Preston didn't get them.) One was supposed to go to Melissa, who knows if it did.
JMC, you can email me and I'll give you my gestimeat of a price.
Wood Man, bad time to be short of jing, this is the guitar for you! |
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Location: Upper Left USA | :confused: |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Bill,
Some memory urged me and I checked your profile.
"Retired Gas Station Owner"
It hit me. I mean it really, really, really hit me.
What an incredible, lovable, GAS inciting bunch of SOB's the OFC is. And you are right there on the top of the heap. I just love this place!!! |
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Location: Converse, Texas | MWoody and W-2: I sued to fly tankers in the Air Force... sorta "passing gas in the sky..." so to speak. :p |
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Location: SoCal | Hizzoner, you guys saved our rear end a number of times...nothing prettier when you have a huge thirst. |
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Location: Converse, Texas | How many of these Adamas long necks were made anyway? |
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Location: SoCal | Consistently, I have been told six...unless one or two extra were kept at the big O. |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | It's kinda strange that this guitar does not have the 5-piece neck. Being that it is a 12 string, seems it would have the 5-piece neck. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | It's an adamas 1, it has a two piece walnut neck.
There were 6 12 strings made. all black.
Some 6 strings made too, perhaps more. These were bleen, and one silver(mine) and a black I think. Nyabne other colors too. Then there were the ones for preston and I don't know how many they've made since 98. |
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Location: SoCal | Anyone hear any more on this great instrument? Was it sold? |
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Rare long neck mint Adamas 12 string/jpgs.
