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Jason_S
Posted 2006-09-02 11:47 PM (#325687)
Subject: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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does any one have a neck for a matrix or urelite the wanna sell?? jason
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seesquare
Posted 2006-09-02 11:54 PM (#325688 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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Probably, but would you want it? Those were designed to be "disposable", and most of them are probably pretty worn out in the "first position" frets.
Well, you've made the request, and you might get lucky.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-09-03 1:40 AM (#325689 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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true but this one has voice that i realy like,loud,clear,good resonance on the top. i paid $90 for it..first ovation i bought before my accident..thanks jason
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seesquare
Posted 2006-09-03 10:41 AM (#325690 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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Jason,
Know any good machinists? Theoretically, you could have the fretboard milled BETWEEN the "fret-wires", then redress the tops. I would expect that scenario to be a bit spendy, but its an idea, anyway.
Or, as many of The Brethren have opined, "Learn to play slide."
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MWoody
Posted 2006-09-03 11:49 AM (#325691 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?



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Uncle Woody's cheap-o repair tip #337:

I would look for a local Hobbyist Club or other network of retired Machinists. These are usually guys as fanatic as some of us, but in a different flavor. Find someone who is up to the challenge in lieu of the money.

I believe there was a post where the fretboard was leveled and slots were cut for the fret wire. The tangs were reduced and epoxy held the wire in.

Option #338 would be to take up slide guitar...
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-09-03 11:56 AM (#325692 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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thats a idea, i used to play slide,im in the process of learning to play all over again. a bad head injury a few years ago changed my life so its back to square one again. thanks jason
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-09-03 11:59 AM (#325693 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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i got a question for you woody,i lowered the saddle a good bit and the action is still high, any ideas??
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seesquare
Posted 2006-09-03 3:59 PM (#325694 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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May I interject? Closely examine the edges of the fretboard extension onto the soundboard. Your crossbrace may be giving way, or the bridge is bellying up a bit. I have done a "bowl-bend" on an old "O" in the past to correct the neck "set" angle. Not for the faint of heart, to be sure!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2006-09-03 7:29 PM (#325695 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?



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The urelite neck on my Ultra bowed on me ... once that happens, there is nothing you can do for the action. At one point, I did buy a used neck and put it on, but that one had the neck block disintegrate. So I put the the old neck back on, installed a raised nut on it and now use it to goof around with slide.

BTW, my neck is urelite with the rosewood fretboard, not aluminum ... or al-you-min-ium. ;)
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-09-04 3:14 AM (#325696 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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the top is sunken in above the sound hole...the laser level proved that..so i was messing around with it and wedged it up with a foodlion card..its semi-playable now.jason
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seesquare
Posted 2006-09-04 10:37 AM (#325697 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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It's fixable. You will need to glue in an additional crossbrace, in back of the existing one. You will also have to fabricate a tensioning jig to pull the depression (the guitar's, not yours)back up.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-09-04 12:10 PM (#325698 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?



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"a bad head injury a few years ago changed my life so its back to square one again. thanks jason"

Have you checked with Moody about a chord book? He claims to have been knocked around and can only remember three chords...

Actually, there are a lot of therapuetic players amongst us. Mostly it's the fellowship and exchange of wisdom. Glad your still here Jason.
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seesquare
Posted 2006-09-04 12:25 PM (#325699 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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My excuse for lack of rhythm & timing is, I'm left-handed.......and not Catholic.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-09-04 7:55 PM (#325700 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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thanks woody,i taught my self before i dont see why i cant do it again. i rember some but as far a acutualy playing music i lost that..im dealing with geting the hands and head back in unision again with fretting exercises and such..but luckly im irish and catholic and i dont give up on something once i get my mind set...jason
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-09-04 7:58 PM (#325701 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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thanks see, ive never under tooken such a repair but i am pretty handy with wood and such so im gonna give it a go..stew mac for a cross brace?? jason
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seesquare
Posted 2006-09-04 11:28 PM (#325702 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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For only one stick? Go to the local hobby store that sells wooden plane kits. They usually have nice pieces of spruce & mahogany in different sizes. You probably need a stick about 3/8 x 1 x 12 inches. Taper both ends. As for restoring the original plane to the fretboard extension area, go slow, and use a lot of cauls to raise the area evenly, and incrementally. The last one I did took about a month to get it right. You don't want to tear the fibers, just coerce them.
Good luck!
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-09-05 1:35 AM (#325703 - in reply to #325687)
Subject: Re: in search of a neck for my 70's matrix? urelite?


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ill look at hobby town and go from there,thanks jason
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