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acousticd
Posted 2008-06-20 7:47 PM (#33835)
Subject: Loop Pedals


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Hey!!! has anyone here tried to perform with one of these. I am having trouble finding a suitable duo partner, it is usually that somebody sings great and thier guitar playing sucks. SO, I am considering incorporating one of these into a solo gig. Does anyone have any suggestions on models and makers or experiance with any of these. thanks.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-06-20 8:04 PM (#33836 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals



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Gibson Echoplex. Industry standard and very versatle with the optional footswitches.
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alpep
Posted 2008-06-20 8:12 PM (#33837 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals


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stephen is right originally it was built by oberheim then henry bought them.

the boss re20 is kinda cool I've seen a couple of people use that one.
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an4340
Posted 2008-06-20 8:13 PM (#33838 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals


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Boss RC-20 Loop Station is another good one. Used it only once, though in the probably 6 times I've seen them used at a gig, this is the only looper i've seen. Then again that's just Brooklyn and NYC, other parts of the country may be different.
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Beal
Posted 2008-06-20 8:50 PM (#33839 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals



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The red Boss one. I use it and it's great.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-06-20 9:17 PM (#33840 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals



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The Akai E2 Headrush gets very good reviews. It's the one I'd like to get.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Akai-E2-Headrush-DelayLooper...
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richardd
Posted 2008-06-20 11:47 PM (#33841 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals


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....the little red Boss pedal works well. Check out Phil Keaggy to see how much a looper can do for your performance when you know how to use it
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-06-21 7:49 AM (#33842 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals


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The Digitech JamMan gets good reveiws, it's the closest competitor in terms of prce and spec to the Boss twin-pedal loop station.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2008-06-21 8:18 AM (#33843 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals



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I saw Keaggy using a JamMan, and it was amazing. It does requiring mastering the technology to use it well.
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KPaul
Posted 2008-06-21 8:19 AM (#33844 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals


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I've been eying the JamMan for quite some time now...can't wait to get one. A friend has one and has recorded some pretty cool stuff with it.
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Omaha
Posted 2008-06-21 10:34 AM (#33845 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals


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I just went through this myself.

Started out with a Digitech JamMan. Ended up returning it.

Switched to a Boss RC-50. Killer. Having three separate but synchronized loop patches makes all the difference for me.

It comes down to what you want to do. With the single loop pedals (JamMan, RC-20, etc), you establish a loop (say two bars) and that's it. Everything you do is constrained in those two bars.

What I wanted to do was different from that. I want to be able to lay down two bars of percussion, then overdub two bars on top of that, and again and again, until I have my percussion groove built up.

THEN I want to come in and lay down say 16 or 24 bars of a chord progression. You can't do that on a JamMan. But you can on the RC-50 (and on the Echoplex as well).

So, if you just want to lay down a single loop and jam over the top, the JamMan, RC-20, etc are perfect. But if you want to layer multiple loops with varying lengths, you need something else.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-06-21 11:09 AM (#33846 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals



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That little Boss looks like it does a lot, and for an attractive price.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-06-24 11:51 PM (#33847 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals



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Boss RC20. An absolute must for playing instrumental solo gigs. I lay down one or two rhythm tracks, a melody track, then play the lead counter melody line or double the melody line live. It never fails to generate lots of positive comments, and the tone is superb. Can't tell what's recorded and what is live. The downside...can't do mid-song tempo changes, key modulations, nor endings with a different tag. Small price to pay for the benefits. I bought one right after I saw the exact same model on Kaki King's pedal board.
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acousticd
Posted 2008-06-25 4:03 AM (#33848 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals


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Thanks for all the feedback. You guys are great!
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-06-25 8:27 AM (#33849 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals



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Say, Omaha, I just read your post. The RC20 gives you 16 minutes of record time, and you can dub over that with as many additional tracks as you want, although eventually the sound can get crazy. The longest single-track recordng I've ever used is about 2 minutes. I typically build about four tracks over the course of about four to 12 measures, then play live on top of those. Of course, the live tracks aren't recorded. There are, I believe, 12 memory banks as well which eliminate the need to lay down the initial rhythm tracks. I've always wondered what additional features were provided by the RC50. Thanks for sharing your post.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-06-25 9:01 AM (#33850 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals



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Originally posted by Paul Blanchard:
I saw Keaggy using a JamMan, and it was amazing. It does requiring mastering the technology to use it well.
Actually Paul, PK doesn't use the Digitech Jamman, he uses the original Lexicon JamMan , and controls it with a Rolls RFX MP1288 MIDIWizard board.
He also uses a Line 6 DL4 Modeling Delay pedal.
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Omaha
Posted 2008-06-25 10:50 AM (#33851 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals


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Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
I've always wondered what additional features were provided by the RC50. Thanks for sharing your post.
It comes down to the ability to have multiple, synchronized loops of different lengths.

The original discussion I had on the AG forum is here:
http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f...
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-06-25 7:42 PM (#33852 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals



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Here's a cool loop pedal clip... YouTube
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-06-26 9:03 AM (#33853 - in reply to #33835)
Subject: Re: Loop Pedals



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Amazing what you can do with a loop, a few pedals and two chords, and some skill. Thanks for sharing, Brad.
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