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Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer

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dlnolet
Posted 2006-12-20 6:47 PM (#321845)
Subject: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer


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I ndeed to replace the tone pot on my Deacon 12. Might anyone have a working one for sale?
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noah
Posted 2006-12-21 1:58 AM (#321846 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer



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Hi dlnolet, In the spirit of you contacting the seller of the Deacon 12 that I won on eBay and making it "worth their while" to renege on the completed auction and sell it to you under-the-table instead...

If anyone has that replacement tone pot, I'll gladly pay more!

You never did respond to my PM asking how you managed to end up with the Deacon 12 that I outbid you on in that eBay auction.
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dlnolet
Posted 2006-12-21 6:37 PM (#321847 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer


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Noah,

In the spirit of cordiality I will respond to your rude insinuations. With respect to the instrument to which you refer, on Nov.4, I received a "Second Chance Offer" from eBay. The offer stated that I was contacted "...because the high bidder was... unable to complete the transaction ..." The offer further states "The selling of the item through Second Chance Offer is in compliance with eBay Policy."

I have used eBay for many years and have never had a problem when purchasing an item pursuant to the stated terms of the transaction. Apparantly, you were unable or unwilling to do so.
In any event, clearly your gripe lies with the seller. By airing your grievance in this forum and casting negative aspersions on me, you reveal your own inadaquacies and downright silliness.

You suggest that somehow I made it worthwhile to the seller even though I paid less than your high bid. Perhaps your next suggestion will be that I sweetened the deal by throwing in a working potentiometer.

As an aside, this particular Deacon 12 is perhaps the greatest single guitar ever made in the history of man and certainly the finest I have ever had the pleasure of handling.
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noah
Posted 2006-12-21 7:42 PM (#321848 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer



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Your story does not wash.

Ebay still shows me as the buyer.

The seller and I are still in the middle of the seller's refusal to sell. Thank's for posting that you did get the guitar from him. I needed that information.

If a sale goes legit through eBay, then the buyer and seller can leave each other feedback... right?

The guy at the pawnshop told me the other bidder called him and offered him more out of eBay. I wrote you at the time and told you what was going down. I did not hear back from you so I assumed you didn't care as long as you got the guitar.

If it was a legit 2nd Chance Offer through eBay, go leave the seller feedback for the auction. I'll then be more than glad to apologize and write it off to the seller just trying to get more money out of me. I'll even buy you the pot.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2006-12-21 8:32 PM (#321849 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer


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Gentlemen... :)

This is why I don't like folks chatting about eBay transactions. Just be mindful of the OFC rule of "Be kind to each other."

I'm not going to do anything with this thread, but lets keep it civil. It's only money, and it's only guitars.
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noah
Posted 2006-12-22 1:03 AM (#321850 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer



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Miles, You edited your post. I liked your "move along folks, nothing that concerns you here" type of phrase.

I apologize to you and the Board as I can see that my initial post is quite harsh.

I strive to be kind to others. And you know if I was wrong about this, I would have apologized and overly compensated the gentleman.

It has been hours, I checked ebay for that feedback. It is not there. He could have revealed old Noah's inadaquacies and made him feel downright silly by just being able to leave feedback for that seller. But ya know, the Seller still has a few more days left on his 60 day limit to get that 2nd Chance Offer out so feedback can be exchanged.

So let's help this guy find a pot for his Deacon!

Miles, out of everyone here, don't you have one to give the guy?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2006-12-22 1:41 AM (#321851 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer


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Actually I don't have any, and as far as I know they were proprietary so there aren't any out there. It is possible to re-wire to use a more standard pot, but "it ain't pretty" as they say.
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BruDeV
Posted 2006-12-22 3:24 AM (#321852 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer


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The early ones (big single coil & very early mini-humbucker) were made by Stackpole (out of business as far as I know), the later mini-humbucker ones were made by CTS. I believe CTS will custom build them for you. Problem is that their minimum order is 1000 units.
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brainslag
Posted 2006-12-22 8:43 AM (#321853 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer


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I might be able to use 999 pots.
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2006-12-22 9:44 AM (#321854 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer
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ahhh... come on, don't make Bruce buy 1000 pots just so we can't help this guy out... j/k...

my experience with these was an adventure,

Brudev and Chatman were able to resurrect the preacher deluxe for me, but since the preamp boards and pots on the active solid bodies are very proprietary, and the parts so hard to find,

unless you know which aircraft they were used in...

I elected to sell the PD, simply because I knew that I could not maintain it if components continued to fail. and I did not want to use half-measures in keeping it as close to original as possible,.

dlnolet, why don't you sell it to Noah for his winning bid?... he'll probably have better luck at finding the parts...

just my .02

Glenn
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brainslag
Posted 2006-12-22 10:02 AM (#321855 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer


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Who's Bruce?
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MWoody
Posted 2006-12-22 11:44 AM (#321856 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer



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I have a broken set that came from some of Kurt Roddy's work. The other option would be to make an offer on this one:
Overpriced and modified Breadwinner

It seems to have had the three-way modified. Hopefully the rest is in place???

If bought for this I'd be interested in the body $75-$100
neck $50
battery plate $50
Neck Plate $50
Tuners $15
Bridge $50
Pups Yuck and no case.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-12-22 11:46 AM (#321857 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer



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Bruce in this case, is BruDev.

In Braveheart it was the wannabe King of the Scots.
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noah
Posted 2006-12-22 4:30 PM (#321858 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer



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Originally posted by Amazingly-Detached..:
dlnolet, why don't you sell it to Noah for his winning bid?...
nah... it is better staying where it landed. It was not that much of a prize in person.

What got me, was that the seller was trying to get more money out of me by leveraging on someone apparently waiting on the side. And the someone turns out to be an OFCer. As far as I'm concerned, it backfired for both of them. The buyer says that the seller got less money. And the buyer says they purchased through a legit 2nd Chance Offer, but then can't leave the seller feedback? eBay has no record of a 2nd Chance Offer, but maybe eBay is lying to me :rolleyes: The seller still has a few days left on his 60 days to get that 2nd Chance Offer out, but then he'll have 2 final value fees and even more explaining.

Well, sorry I couldn't help you find that tone pot :(
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2006-12-23 2:50 AM (#321859 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer


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Well guys it appears I have ONE (1) MONO / STEREO Jack Plate, and having received several emails, I decided to just put it up for auction and let you's guy's duke it out.

Feeling somewhat like the late Crock hunter tossing a piece of meat into the pit of crocks.

Mono/Stereo Jack Plate

Bid high, and bid often.
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noah
Posted 2006-12-23 3:21 AM (#321860 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer



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Wrong thread Miles,

but as long as you're here, why don't you donate it to Woody's auction instead.

It's for a great cause... I thought I heard somewhere that, Woody's Auction for an OFC Friend's Christmas Gift, was an effort to raise money for a fabulous gift he's planned for you.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2006-12-23 3:56 AM (#321861 - in reply to #321845)
Subject: Re: Deacon/Breadwinner potentiometer


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Thanks Noah, I re-posted to the right thread.

I do have something to add to Woody's auction, Just need to re-find it. I saw it the other day, now I can't find it...
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