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Location: big island | music is a spiritual thing. spiritual things are spiritually discerned. some music my spirit agrees with and is elevated by, some it doesn't and senses a baser element that it wants nothing to do with. i believe we are all subject to this truth regardless of our musical preferences. |
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Location: Scotland | Randy, That is not a "truth" it's a personal opinion.
There is more music than I can ever listen to in my entire life which I would embrace, enjoy, and learn from. There is more which I will not enjoy, but I can still learn from, and even though I would not choose to listen to it as a means of recreation, I can still accept it as a valid expression of someones art. I don't even consider any of that as sprirituality, for me it's an entirely intelectual process. |
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Location: NJ | "intellectual".
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Location: Scotland | Thancs, aswype. |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
I don't even consider any of that as sprirituality, for me it's an entirely intelectual process. would you consider music, in itself, spiritual or intellectual? |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Neither, its emotional. |
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Location: Hicksville, NY | checked the Ovation website ... it features one of the members of Slipknot. The blackness of that Ovation he's holding - IMO - brings out that dark, gothic-esque vibe. |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by muzza:
Neither, its emotional. yes, muz. music can play on our emotions and the word "emotion" is difficult to define. when most of us consider emotions, we think about the outward expressions such as crying, laughing etc. but, in my opinion, there is something much deeper than that where our emotions are derived from and driven by. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by lanaki:
would you consider music, in itself, spiritual or intellectual? Neither Dick, here at American Bandstand, all we care about is the DANCE!
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | The definition of 'emotional' is an emotional issue.
For me, emotions are an internal thing. Crying and laughing etc are just manifestations of emotions. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I think it depends, sometimes music is a spiritual thing ... I saw David Byrne give a great presentation about this at a concert of voodoo and santaria music. We are hotwired for certain rythyms and sounds to affect us. Now, does this hotwiredness equal spirituality, well, each one of us will have to figure that out on their own. ... wait what was this thread about? |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by lanaki:
[/qb] would you consider music, in itself, spiritual or intellectual? [/QB]
The playing of an instrument and the performance of music requires intellectual processes along with specific and developed motor skills. Good musicians use these processes and skills to convey mood, feeling and emotion at many levels. If by "spiritual" you imply the influence of some "higher power" or some other intangible, then for me, no, not at all. |
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| Jee's Paul, Give the guy a break, for some people "Spirituality" is not as "intangible" as it is for others. Hell I don't believe in much but I respect others opinions and beliefs and certainly their feelings about music.
But your Scottish. We, each of us, has our problems. I can understand your still angry because we used to come over and conquer your people in the old days. Sorry about all that....... I Guess one of my many problems is; I don't respect others national pride, I'll have to work on that one.
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Location: Scotland | I'm not Scottish, I just happen to live there, and I couldn't give a damn about "National Pride" |
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Location: NJ | . . but, . . . . but, . . . what about the Duke and Duchess of Rothesay?? |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
And you think this alleged moral decline is down to a bunch of musicians? ... [/QB] Well, I apologize about your breath (what kind of bait did you use, anyway?)...
So, tell me where I said that the decline of civilization is ALL due to music? I said it's all part of the same slippery slope (meaning one part of many). Methinks you read into my post what you want to make your point, or make it look like I'm some kind of extremist nutcase. If you really think that these types of influences don't have an affect (especially on our children), well, I guess I don't know what to say... |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Woof ... this topic just got boring. |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV | Nah, it's been boring for a while. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I blame video games for everything. The Twinkie defense only works in California, but I bet video games would work better. |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV | So that's my problem. Too much Donkey Kong in my youth... |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Ok this might make it interesting..
A - "The definition of 'emotional' is an emotional issue." the kidz call it "emo" now.
B - The SlipKnot guitarist seems to be gone from Ovation artists lists and homepage. |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV | I just brought up the homepage, and the scary guy is still there... |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Yup, still there.
He's so paranoid about having his guitar stolen, he's tattooed the serial number on his arm.
You're right, this guy IS smart.
Anyway, what's SEVEN got to do with SnotRag? |
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Location: closely held secret | It's easier for 9 burnt out crackheads to remember a number. Barely. Apparently some need a reminder. |
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anyone check the ovation homepage today?
