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Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures

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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2008-12-15 4:43 PM (#296826)
Subject: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures



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Hello everybody,

to whom it may concern:

On the german bay is a JL3 announced...

1651-7 RI

The seller uses pictures from Jerome's page, and some of you may recognize Dave's and/or my garden.

Just in case somebody is interested in this guitar - the pictures don't show the real guitar. At least, in one case. I still have mine.

Best regards,
Kurt
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Damon67
Posted 2008-12-15 4:57 PM (#296827 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures



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That's very wrong in my opinion.
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-12-15 5:01 PM (#296828 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures


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I take it that it's not clearly disclosed as not being pics of the actual guitar being sold?

That's definitely wrong.
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Patch
Posted 2008-12-15 5:02 PM (#296829 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures



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I had someone steal the pictures and description of a guitar I sold on eBay for their own ad. I reported it, but it ran anyway. Ebay got their money, and hopefully the seller actually sold the same type of guitar, though he didn't sell the one in the photos.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-12-15 5:17 PM (#296830 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures
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I'll consider it a compliment. Hey I can even see myself in the reflection off the guitar. The cool thing is how he took photos of the headstock from two different angles and stopped to retune the guitar between the two shots.
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2008-12-15 5:43 PM (#296831 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures


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Asked the seller why he uses pics from ovationtribute.com and ovationgallery.com. Says he sold his reflex camera and has no other possibility to take pictures. Guitar is serial #605204. He also owns a #47RI . Think he is a reputable seller.

I've played Kurt's 1651 for serveral times. Hey, this guitar is the best sounding wood-top Ovation I ever had in hands. That could be a nice Xmas present for myself.

Karl
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G8r
Posted 2008-12-15 6:19 PM (#296832 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures


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I don't care what his excuse is, that's just wrong. Not only did he steal someone's property in the form of photos, but he's misrepresenting the item he's selling by not stating that the photos are not of the actual guitar for sale.

If he hot-linked the images he's stealing bandwidth as well. If they are hot-linked and they were my images I'd replace them on my site with the same images but with the text "Image Stolen From " in large yellow font across the whole image for the duration of the auction.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2008-12-15 7:07 PM (#296833 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures



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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I'll consider it a compliment. Hey I can even see myself in the reflection off the guitar. The cool thing is how he took photos of the headstock from two different angles and stopped to retune the guitar between the two shots.
You are right, Dave! Even cooler: He changed the machines from Schaller's to Ping's.

But this you only see when you look at the pictures "he" took from the headstock's backs:

Schallers:



PIngs:


Best regards,
merry chrsitmas and a happy new year to all of you,
Kurt
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-12-15 7:15 PM (#296834 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures



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He even changed the serial number!
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-12-15 8:16 PM (#296835 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures


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Tell me his camera is broke, or he sold it etc...etc..., and he doesn't know someone who has one to borrow. Yeah, right. Like it's been said before....wrong.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2009-01-21 12:03 PM (#296836 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures



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UPDATE:
Remember the guy offering his JL3 with Toby's and my pictures?

Today I checked, if he sold it. He did, but it seems the "winner" was not happy and sent it back - because" it was not the guitar he won in the auction".



Sometimes life's good...

Best regards,
Kurt
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-01-21 12:40 PM (#296837 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures
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Hey that's good. They got him on it !!!

That should teach him to next time use his own photos.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-01-21 1:16 PM (#296838 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures



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I wonder what it was that he actually sent ... whether it was a JL3 at all.

In looking at the pictures, it seems like there may have been several different versions of this guitar. For instance I have Schallers on mine but apparently they changed to Pings? More striking, mine has the dark mahogany center stripe in the neck ... both of these above have what appears to be a maple center stripe. Anyone else?
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2009-01-21 1:34 PM (#296839 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures



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Mine - and, according to the serial number the ebay seller registrated on Dave's site for his, the one on ebay was NOT one of the famous 100 for the Japanese market (even if the seller stated it was).

The german distributor offered the 1651 Ltd. as a special order guitar to several german music shops - and you could order it the whole pre fender time.

And it was NOT exactly a Reissue. Mine for example has an LX neck with the little hump on the backside of the head (you'll see it in the pictures above), GS bowl, Ping Tuners... But it has the beautiful three maple stripes, as Dave's.

And mine is the best wood topped plastic bowl I ever had or heard! All the new features combined with an AAA grade, A-braced top.

Best regards,
Kurt
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Tony Calman
Posted 2009-01-21 2:15 PM (#296840 - in reply to #296826)
Subject: Re: Ebay Alert: JL3 with Gallerinsky's and my pictures



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Mine has the Schallers and light (maple) center stripe.
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