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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2008-08-06 8:35 PM (#27512)
Subject: urethane oil


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I'm refinishing a special custom legend... neck and headstock. I've been toying around with applying a hand rubbed urethane oil finish like the Adamas ME 12's.
Any here use this finish before?
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an4340
Posted 2008-08-06 9:41 PM (#27513 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil


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My favorite finish for guitar necks is Tru-oil gun oil. Never used polyutherane. The tru-oil is very forgiving and easy to repair. On maple necks all you need is about 8 coats. Can be done in 4 days, once in the morning, once in the evening, then you let it sit for two weeks to cure to playable, and about 3 months to hard.
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Beal
Posted 2008-08-07 8:18 AM (#27514 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil



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Try it on a separate piece of wood first, see how it works.
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msl109
Posted 2008-08-07 11:24 PM (#27515 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil


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I've used Tru Oil myself many times, though never on a spruce ovation - excellent, very workable finish - just use a thin layer, work evenly and not too slowly. Don't worry about being perfect the first time; you can always rub it down lightly with steel wool between coats, which build up to a nice gloss, sometimes even without final polishing. It's slightly less glossy than lacquers but still what I'd call high gloss. The other great thing about it is scratches and minor dings can often be worked out without a total refin and you will not need many coats. Good luck! When you're done with the bottle, wipe off the top and turn it upside down for storage - a thin skin always forms in the bottle at the top of the oil. Mike
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2008-11-03 2:02 PM (#27516 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil


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Bringing this thread back up with a progress report.
Thanks to an4340 and msl109 for the tip about Tru-Oil.
It was exactly the finish I was looking for with this project.

First, a little background on this instrument. This is the 6 string twin to the "Joni Mitchell" 12 string we discussed a while back. The mother ship built it for me in 82. I call it a "Custom" Legend... in quotes because it shares a few features with a true CL, but deviates in other areas. It has the CL fretboard and Abalone rosette, but no Abalone body binding or carved bridge. It also has a special order nutmeg finish on the top and mid depth brown bowl. The added inlays were done by a talented luthier friend of mine and mimic the work he had already done on my "Custom" Pacemaker.

Tru-Oil builds up a finish from the inside out instead of overcoat build up like lacquer's and poly's produce. As such, the depth and richness of the finish is just stunning. Great playing feel, beautiful grain detail... as I said, just what I was looking for.
Another cool part about Tru-Oil is that it can also be over sprayed with lacquer for areas where you'd like to have a built up overcoat as I decided to do on the headstock veneer, where I wanted the inlays to have a more encased appearance.

I apologize for my crappy camera... doesn't do justice to this finish at all, but here are a few pictures.

It's great to have my living room O back in service.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-11-03 3:13 PM (#27517 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil


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Jonmark, I was looking at those pics earlier. The neck of that guitar is absolutely stunning.....
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bcoombs
Posted 2008-11-03 3:29 PM (#27518 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil


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Wow. That turned out very nice!
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dvd
Posted 2008-11-03 3:54 PM (#27519 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil



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looks great!
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Patch
Posted 2008-11-03 4:19 PM (#27520 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil



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Beauty! Great job!
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MWoody
Posted 2008-11-03 5:00 PM (#27521 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil



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Sweet!
Oil's well that ends well!
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Waskel
Posted 2008-11-03 5:14 PM (#27522 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil



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Mike, I've been waiting all morning for you to say that.

Nice job, Jonmark.
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MWoody
Posted 2008-11-03 5:27 PM (#27523 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil



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Pretty slick, eh?

I just started using Tru Oil on a couple of Projects and it is nice stuff.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-11-03 6:15 PM (#27524 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil



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That is a beautiful guitar.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2008-11-03 6:57 PM (#27525 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil


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Thanks guys.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-11-03 7:07 PM (#27526 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil
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Outstanding job! That nutmeg looks great.

How did you get the top and neck so close?
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cliff
Posted 2008-11-03 7:22 PM (#27527 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil


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NiceNeck!!!
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FlySig
Posted 2008-11-03 8:10 PM (#27528 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil



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Beautiful!
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Beal
Posted 2008-11-03 8:13 PM (#27529 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil



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looks pretty nice.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2008-11-03 11:31 PM (#27530 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil


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Jonmark - great job!
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2008-11-04 12:25 PM (#27531 - in reply to #27512)
Subject: Re: urethane oil


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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Outstanding job! That nutmeg looks great.

How did you get the top and neck so close?
It is close iffy, but unplanned. Once again, crappy camera. There's a bit more red in the mahogany than on the top... which is pretty close to a Patriot.
They do complement each other well and I think the brown bowl helps to tie it all together.
My chocolate Legend. :)
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