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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ....I'm curious about your Horizontal dove tail!
I figure I'm going to spend at least as much time making jigs and molds as building the guitar itself...
I'm thinking i will "boil" the sides, then clamp to a side mold under halagen lamp |
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| Good luck if it works.. Boiling the wood is a waste of time and for some woods a NO NO.. The minute you pull the wood it flashes and is too cold to bend.. As long as the heat is constant try it.. Remember the steam is the thing you need not just hot water... Its not like building row boats... If you want a real easy way to bend wood --- Get some pure amonia and you can tie wood in a knot if you want.. Your neighbors might not appreciate it when your house blows up.. I would buy heat blankets if you use clamps on a mold.. Just wet the wood with hot water.. |
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Location: NJ | ". . Your neighbors might not appreciate it when your house blows up.. "
Then again, . . . they just MIGHT. :D |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Thanks, Trboy and Luthier444 (aka L'4s)
L'4s,
Funny you mentioned rowboats. 20(+) years ago, a colleague and I were the very young, very commited and somewhat talented repair dudes for the historic (70-100+ year old) Chesapeake Bay vessels at the school where we were teaching. We occassionaly used the steam box of a generous local wooden boat builder in Chestertown Md. Bending wood seemed like we were performing magic...
I've read about ways to bend the sides of a guitar but, need to hear and I really value you guys offering your advice!!
Currently...
I'm only in the tonewood-materials-aquisition-phase presently. Once the woods arrive I will begin, in ernest, the design, then processes. There is much research to do and again I thank you for posting!
The question I am thinking about tonight is Bridge type...
I am inclined to use a pinless bridge and bone saddle. Pinned bridges are attractive for break angle of the strings, but pinned bridge needs a more massive bridge block. A pinless bridge doesn't have as sharp a beak angle, but doesn't need a massive bridge block.
Bracing discussions to follow...
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| Keep in mind the stress of the strings on pin bridges are under the top. Pinless bridges are as strong as the bond of the bridge to the top.. Meaning a pin bridge may not delaminate even if it is lifting from bad glue bond. Pinless bridges , if it delaminates may or may not smack you in the head while you are playing.. There is more to this than that.... Sound wise it is known that , even beyond what may seem lodgical---- You need more bracing to get the low end out of a guitar... { JIMI HENDRIX - PUSHING HIS STRAT AGAINST A CHAIR TO GET MORE VOLUME} The Bass side of a bridge on a hand made guitar is always bigger and thicker then the treble side..
Thats why I dont use either one of them!!!!!!! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Luthier444,
We have much to discuss |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | and I have much to learn |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | The soundboard, back and side wood arrived to day.
It's beautiful stuff. |
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| Finished yet? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Schroeder, I'm doing your order first. |
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| The nylon or the steel? Did we discuss colour options? |
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Location: NJ | 40lb. test and Pink.
(No Substitutions) |
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| There's an ad in this month's Gear magazine over here for a bright pink Applause. It's not a good look. |
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Location: closely held secret | This is an excerpt from an email I got from Kim, in response to my asking how my 1624 was coming along.
I seriously doubt he will mind me sharing it...
"We accidentally mixed it up with a guitar we are building for Shakira, and it got painted Flamingo Pink. We immediately realized our mistake and tried to wipe off the finish. Unfortunately, the rag the tech used was already saturated with black paint. Currently it is a black-to-pink sunburst. The tech set it down on a cart that was headed to Hamer, and they installed pickups and a Bigsby tremolo, because that's what they do. It is now a wicked acoustic rockabilly guitar. I haven't sent it back to you because I found some flaws in the finish, so the paint tech is currently trying to figure out how to duplicate the black-to-pink sunburst. "
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Location: SoCal | well, better than his normal Green Goblin Latex from Sears (with textured roller) :p :eek: :p |
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| I forget if you mentioned??
What kind of back and sides and what kind of Top wood??? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Red Spruce (Adirondack) top.
Honduran Rosewood back and sides. |
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| AWESOME DUDE!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Not a fan of the cedar tops, JW? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | got two already... (luv'em both) |
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| Adirondack spruce----- What makes vintage Martins great especially WWII Dred Martins.. Rosewood is always a good choice for BOOM and balance |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | All very nice pieces as well...The top especially, though it isn't "mastergrade" (just first or AAA) it is flawless. I found a really great tonewood supplier here in Va, and the guy is great. His wood is stellar. The Rosewood is dead straight and uniform, a more subtle gain pattern as opposed to highly figured, which is fine as I am planning to make this guitar very understated and elegant, no flash...
I am wavering daily between Dred style or 0M style...tough choice. Currently, 12 fret to body OM style has a nose out... |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Hope you guys don't mind if I ask (probably a whole bunch of) stupid questions along the way. Someday I just might venture into the area myself... |
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