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1598MERB or 1598MEII ???

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Pokeypup
Posted 2006-01-08 12:57 AM (#270007)
Subject: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Eugene, Oregon
Hi,

I am new to this site. I want to thank everyone here, for all the great info and pics. This site is awesome, I am excited to be a member.

I am thinking of buying a MERB1598 on e-bay but I can't tell if the ad is wrong or not. ??? Help please....

The add, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7379892909&...

It lists a OP50 and I thought this guitar has a OP24+ C pre-amp. I am confused.... The pictures look like they are from the new 1598MEII.

Is E-bay really a good source, or should I pay the extra $500 and buy at a dealer. I have wanted to buy this guitar for a long time but I am now pretty confused.

Thankyou, Puppy :eek:
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Stuart Rysdale [aka Driftwood]
Posted 2006-01-08 4:43 AM (#270008 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Posts: 140

Location: Spain
Its an ME as it has the logo on the fret board .But it aint new.. the new ones are graphite burst and have the OP pro electronics and with a bit of searching you will only pay abouy 1800 for a brand new one . Check the for sale board here first though .And Im sure one of our fiends here will know where there is one (Al have you got one in????)
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Waskel
Posted 2006-01-08 8:13 AM (#270009 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???



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Location: closely held secret
I'd check with the seller and see if you can get the first 3 or 4 digits of the serial number for dating. If this has the OP50, it isn't new, but it isn't that old. That was the most recent preamp before the Pro. It certainly looks like it could be NOS.

Also, Welcome to the Board!!! Another Oregon member, looks like Oregon is catching up with SoCal!
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2006-01-08 8:24 AM (#270010 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Posts: 1922

Location: Canton (Detroit), MI
Hi, and welcome to the OFC. That is NOT an OP50 pre-amp in the picture, I believe it is an Optima. I have a 1598MERB EXACTLY like this one, and it was built in the 2001 timeframe.

I wouldn't go over $1500 or so to get this one(used ones sell regularly on eBay for $1000-$1200)....past that, you should go order a new one, IMHO.

Roger
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Waskel
Posted 2006-01-08 9:17 AM (#270011 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???



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Oops, you're right, Roger. I didn't look at it, just read the description. I should know better with Ebay ads...
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Pokeypup
Posted 2006-01-08 10:56 AM (#270012 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Eugene, Oregon
Thankyou for the info and sweet welcome!

I saw the Optima too, Roger. I asked the seller for a serial number but have not heard back yet. The guitar looks very new but I saw the error in the pic and ad. It made me wonder if the pics were really the actual item and/or someone has been sitting on this one for awhile.
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ChatMan
Posted 2006-01-08 2:42 PM (#270013 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Tampa, FL
I don'think it is an Optima. Maybe an OP-x or something but not an Optima. Which in turn means no XLR. Oh well.
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ChatMan
Posted 2006-01-08 2:45 PM (#270014 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Tampa, FL
I don'think it is an Optima. Maybe an OP-x or something but not an Optima. Which in turn means no XLR. Oh well.
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Pokeypup
Posted 2006-01-08 2:59 PM (#270015 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Eugene, Oregon
I sure can't tell by the pics. I am seeing the MERB advertised new at some dealers but they are calling it the MEII so I am getting very confused. I had thought that the 1598MERB was no longer available and was being replaced by the new ME line and was not available in the RB color. This is an ad from a dealer http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/guitars/12-string-guitars/Ovation/1...

I guess I should ask, what is the preferred preamp for this guitar? I do not play any gigs except for my two Border collies who haven't complained yet.
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Pokeypup
Posted 2006-01-08 3:01 PM (#270016 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Eugene, Oregon
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/guitars/12-string-guitars/Ovation/1...


Sorry, it didn't work on the other.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2006-01-08 6:08 PM (#270017 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI
I think there are old MERB1598 units still at dealers....mine had been around for over two years before I bought it.

Yes, mine has no XLR. My preferred pre-amp would be the OP-Pro in the new model, or an OP-40 if you can find one. I'm not fond of this pre-amp, whatever it is.

Roger
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2006-01-08 7:56 PM (#270018 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Warren,Pa.
The preamp is an Op24+C...which means NO XLR and NO notch filter; it does, however, have very nice "outie" epaulets.
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Pokeypup
Posted 2006-01-11 8:05 PM (#270019 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Eugene, Oregon
:( dang...the auction is ending in minutes but the seller will not answer my e-mails about the correct amp or the serial number for the 1598ME....so I just gotta pass.
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dragonboy
Posted 2006-01-11 9:44 PM (#270020 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Southern California
Puppy - Just as well you didn't hear back from the seller and someone else won the auction. The price was too much bux for used, even in excellent condition.

I got my 1598MERB off the bay about two months ago. In absolute cherry condition, she was just under a grand. I checked out the pix in the ebay listing you posted, and the guitar you were were looking at could pass for the twin sister of mine.

By the way, these are absolutely awesome guitars. :D If you're serious about getting one, keep looking here or on the bay. Sooner or later you'll find one, and more than likely get it for a better price than the one you were just looking at. :)
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Pokeypup
Posted 2006-01-12 12:29 AM (#270021 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Eugene, Oregon
;) Thanks, I know that one was just too high. I know the seller is a "pawn shop" that is looking for the $$$. I can't imagine the owner wanting to part with it, I think I would have choose something else to sell.

I will definately keep looking. :) I have to say that I absolutely adore the Custom Legend LX that Dave has for sale. :cool:
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Strummin12
Posted 2006-01-16 1:50 PM (#270022 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Pokeypup-

I have the Adamas MEII1598 12 string. Personally, I like it much better than the MERB1598, though it too does not have an XLR out. The sound of the MEII is very different, deeper and richer. I have met several people who have the original model and are extremely happy with it, but given a choice I'd get the MEII over the MERB any day.

The immediate visual difference is that the MEII has one epaulet, not 2. Though they originally only offered the MEII in the natural gray/black burst, I've seen recent interviews where Melissa has an MEII with a Ruby burst, so if you like that color, it may be an option offered now.

Good luck.
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Pokeypup
Posted 2006-01-17 9:48 PM (#270023 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Eugene, Oregon
OKAY! OKAY!!!

I know a 1598 Merb just went down in flames on E-bay for $940.00...YES! I was watching it but I have decided that I MUST have Dave's Custom Legend instead.

Women are allowed to change their minds.....right? ;)
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stephent28
Posted 2006-01-17 11:33 PM (#270024 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???



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You will be happy with any guitar you get from Dave. All of his stuff is 1st class and well cared for.
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Pokeypup
Posted 2006-01-18 12:46 AM (#270025 - in reply to #270007)
Subject: Re: 1598MERB or 1598MEII ???


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Location: Eugene, Oregon
:) Thanks, Strummin and Stephen, and all you guys with great guitar advice...

Yikes! There is so much info here to learn, I thank you all very much. This is like the-MAN BOARD..lol :D

I am laughing cause I am the one in my family who just has to have a new guitar, when I see THE one... I am the one in my household who has to figure out the best way to pull off my "gotta haves" at my home. ;)

I have to agree on Dave's guitars! WOW!
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