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willard
Posted 2006-01-16 6:11 AM (#269089)
Subject: Finishes and Stands


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The following was on a tag from a new stand I aquired this weekend.
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Not Recommended for Guitars With Nitro Cellulous Lacquer Finish. The Material of Foam Might Cause Unexspected Chemical Reaction That May Deteriorate The Finish
Can anybody tell me what kind of finish Ovations have and just what is a Nitro Cellulous Lacquer Finish.
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jb
Posted 2006-01-16 6:23 AM (#269090 - in reply to #269089)
Subject: Re: Finishes and Stands


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If I'm right, I believe that the gloss finish on (e.g.) a Fender Strat/Tele is nitro-cellulose lacquer.

I hold up my hand to pure ignorance of the Ovation finish, though. Having said that, I don't think it would affect an O as all the lacquer and finishing is on the front, away from the stand.

JB
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ChatMan
Posted 2006-01-16 6:55 AM (#269091 - in reply to #269089)
Subject: Re: Finishes and Stands


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Ovations' have a catalyzed polymer finish that is impervious to just about about anything ('cepting maybe finish cracks ;) ) and therefore pretty difficult to fix when it gets marred. In balance, it's kind of hard to mar in the first place.

Nitro cellulose I believe is what you find on Martins' and similar. It is susceptible to just about everything, but when damaged, is pretty easy to fix. A little perspiration is enough to give you a hazy finish.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-01-16 7:17 AM (#269092 - in reply to #269089)
Subject: Re: Finishes and Stands


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Nitrocellolose is what you get on expensive acoustics. It's time consuming to apply (coat, rub down, coat, rub down and on and on)and to repair, though not difficult.
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edzep
Posted 2006-01-16 8:29 AM (#269093 - in reply to #269089)
Subject: Re: Finishes and Stands


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Good one, Willard! I was about to ask this very question, having bought an $8 made-in-China stand from Musician's Friend, with the same tag. I'm getting a Legend LX, which has the laquer finish on the neck, which would contact the neck support pad. I had been considering where to pick up different kinds of tubing, or cotton wrapping, etc. From replies by jb, chatman and schroeder, I guess we have no worries. Thanks, guys.
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jb
Posted 2006-01-16 8:46 AM (#269094 - in reply to #269089)
Subject: Re: Finishes and Stands


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Mark your calendars, guys - I finally helped someone!! Only 14 months into my membership of the site.

Who'd have thunk it! Cheers, edzep!

JB
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willard
Posted 2006-01-16 9:34 AM (#269095 - in reply to #269089)
Subject: Re: Finishes and Stands


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Mine is a Musician's Friend stand as well. A friend of mine meant to buy 4 and ended up with 6. For $10, I couldn't pass it up. I looked all over the thing and couldn't find a "Made In" sticker. Not even on the box. It's one of those short kind without the neck support.
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Cc
Posted 2006-01-16 10:13 AM (#269096 - in reply to #269089)
Subject: Re: Finishes and Stands



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One of the guitar shops here in town used wall hangers with foam supports on some higher end used guitars. They were shocked to find the foam had eaten into the neck finish of some very expensive axes.
I had a "body guard" on one of my Jazz Basses for years without any problem till I moved to the coast. In a matter of weeks the foam had deteriorated and ate the finish all around the edges of the bass. I was pretty sick about it. I have heard the rubber like surgical tubing is pretty safe.
Cc
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edzep
Posted 2006-01-16 10:34 AM (#269097 - in reply to #269089)
Subject: Re: Finishes and Stands


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Surgical tubing is a pretty good idea, regardless of laquer type. Now, where does one find thick-wall surgical tubing with inside diameter arount 5/16 inch?
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MWoody
Posted 2006-01-16 11:36 AM (#269098 - in reply to #269089)
Subject: Re: Finishes and Stands



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Find a variety of surgical tubing at most "Hard Core Fisherman" meccas! It is used as snubbers.
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-01-16 12:59 PM (#269099 - in reply to #269089)
Subject: Re: Finishes and Stands



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This scuba shop has all different sizes.

http://www.reefscuba.com/surgical_tubing.htm
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