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dougr
Posted 2006-01-19 8:57 PM (#268547)
Subject: electric guitar amps. need advice.!
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what is the best electric guitar amp , marshall, fender, crate ,peavy, i have a cort cl1000, with humbuckers. my ovation is my favorite of course, i play it through a 50 watt bass amp, and it sounds great
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-01-19 9:35 PM (#268548 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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Without any kind of price range? You should get some opinions, or do a search and see all the opinions already posted. I think most of those were on acoustic amps, though.
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an4340
Posted 2006-01-19 9:59 PM (#268549 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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The one that sounds the best that you can afford. You gotta try them. Go to a guitar store during the day, when you got the place to yourself. Find the ones in your price range, and crank them.
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dougr
Posted 2006-01-19 10:26 PM (#268550 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!
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i am looking to spend around 300.00, i am torn between marshall avt 20, marshall mg 30, line 6 spider11, fender fm 300, which brand do you guys think is the best?
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Stephen P
Posted 2006-01-19 10:29 PM (#268551 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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I think the Marshall AVT series sounds really good....
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edzep
Posted 2006-01-19 10:34 PM (#268552 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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Have you checked reviews at Harmony Central? Of course, they're not all going to be reliable, but, I like looking for a preponderance of opinion. Sometimes points are raised that you might never think about. I also like to read what the most negative guys have to say. Learn to read between the lines, etc. I used the reviews recently to choose a practice amp, since there isn't enough to choose from where I live, and I wanted to order online. (Vox Pathfinder 15R, very well regarded. My first, but seems as described.)

http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/
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stephent28
Posted 2006-01-20 12:18 AM (#268553 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!



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I think the new Vox modeling amps are excellent in the $300 range. Great effects, extremely loud, and pretty well built. Don't really care for the metal front but I could live with it.
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dmkozak
Posted 2006-01-20 9:39 AM (#268554 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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1. This is a forum for a particular ACOUSTIC guitar. You're asking about an ELECTRIC guitar amplifier. You're in the wrong place. Go to a wider range forum that deals more with electric guitars.

2. Figure out what you're going to use the amp for; practice in your bedroom, jamming with friends, playing out with a band. Figure out which type or kind of music you will be playing; jazz, blues, country, classic rock, modern rock, metal, shred, indie, etc. Figure out how "warm" a sound you're looking for so you can decide between tube or solid state. Figure out how loud you'll need the amp to be (based on where you'll be using it and what type of music you'll be playing), so you can figure out how much power you'll need. Figure out if you'll need/use amp modeling. Figure out if you'll need/use special effects (beyond reverb). Electric guitar amps are designed to create (not recreate, like acoustic amps) sounds from your electric guitar. Most amps do some sounds better than others. Once you figure out what your needs are, you can zero in on what amps will best fulfill those needs.

Otherwise, you're just guessing and following the opinions of those who like or don't like their particular amp but haven't played enough different amps to make an informed decision. Finally, try to play as many as you can to get a feel how the differences effect what you're looking for.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-01-20 9:46 AM (#268555 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!



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While I do believe this to be a 90% acoustic and 10% solidbody site I don't think the question is too far off.

You would get a larger demographic if you went to
www.projectguitar.com
or
www.seymourduncan.com
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Waskel
Posted 2006-01-20 9:48 AM (#268556 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!



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Originally posted by dmkozak:
1. This is a forum for a particular ACOUSTIC guitar. You're asking about an ELECTRIC guitar amplifier. You're in the wrong place.
Excuse me? Last time I looked this was an Ovation forum. Who happens to have made some of the finest (albeit unappreciated) electrics out there. :cool:
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Stephen P
Posted 2006-01-20 10:20 AM (#268557 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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I think the new Vox modeling amps are excellent in the $300 range. Great effects, extremely loud, and pretty well built. Don't really care for the metal front but I could live with it.
Yes...the valvetronix amps are great. I happen to own a 50 watt vox valvetronix. I just forgot to mention it because they weren't in list of choices. My AC50VT was $359 at my GC, and I haven't seen that price change from any other store. I think it's a great deal, as the Marshall 50 watt AVT is $600 I believe.
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dmkozak
Posted 2006-01-20 11:18 AM (#268558 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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Originally posted by Waskel:
Excuse me? Last time I looked this was an Ovation forum. Who happens to have made some of the finest (albeit unappreciated) electrics out there. :cool:

Operative words "have made". Yes, Ovation made great electric guitars, and this forum is about Ovations, but Ovation hasn't made an electric for about 30 years, and the overwhelming majority of comments are with acoustic guitars.

I still say he'd be better off in a forum that deals more with the electric guitar music he plays.
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Stephen P
Posted 2006-01-20 11:57 AM (#268559 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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I guess you both have a point, but don't forget many of us here own both solid body electric guitars as well as acoustics, even if Ovation themselves don't build solid body electric anymore, because Hamer does, and many members own Hamers. I don't think asking here was a bad idea.
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Mitchrx
Posted 2006-01-20 12:46 PM (#268560 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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Doug:

For $300 the Vox Valvetronix, Line 6 Spider II, Marshall AVT or any of the other modeling amps are mostly the same. If you want to jam with a band and drummer though, you'll need 50 watts or more and there's not many 50 watt amps for $300. For just playing at home or with friends 20-30 watts should suffice.

It's very hard to find a store that has every brand. Ideally, you need a large selection and some time to try each brand out. The reveiws at http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data/ are very informative. Perhaps you should start there just to narrow the selection down.

I have the 30 watt Line 6 Spider II and it works great for basic home use.
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mt_spiffy
Posted 2006-01-20 3:12 PM (#268561 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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Originally posted by dougr:
what is the best electric guitar amp , marshall, fender, crate ,peavy, i have a cort cl1000, with humbuckers. my ovation is my favorite of course, i play it through a 50 watt bass amp, and it sounds great
Ok, as already mentioned we need a price range . . . and also, there's a great deal of preference involved. Different brands of amps have distinctively different sounds, and are appropriate for different styles of music. Some amps are much heavier on the gain and distortion, others excell in clean. What styles of music you play might be helpful also.

In my opinion the best electric guitar amplifier is the Fender Twin Reverb. It has beautiful cleans and is capable of excellent bluesy overdrive and distortion. But it wouldnt work for someone who wanted a very high gain amplifier i.e. hard rock and metal. It also costs $1000 (new), so if may or may not be in your budget.
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mt_spiffy
Posted 2006-01-20 3:18 PM (#268562 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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PS. It seems many people here are fans of modeling amps. I DETEST them. They sound fake to me. I dont want one amp that TRIES to sound like many amps, I want one amp that SUCCEEDS in sounding like itself, and itself sounds exactly how I want it to sound.

But this brings up another point: if you are a hobbiest messing around at home, or playing in a band for fun, a modeling amp might be better. It gives you a wide variety of tones to play with.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-01-20 3:25 PM (#268563 - in reply to #268547)
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Hmmm. Dan, is schizophrenia common in Wisconsin? :mad: :) :D :(
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stephent28
Posted 2006-01-20 3:45 PM (#268564 - in reply to #268547)
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Dan, in a later post he put the price range around 300 bills and mentioned modeling amps as some of his choices.

You are correct tho and I agree. My favorite is my THD Univalve with the 2x12 box.....but try to find a good tube for $300.
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mt_spiffy
Posted 2006-01-20 4:01 PM (#268565 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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Whoops, I missed that post. I was distracted by all the "NO ELECTRIC GUITARS IN AN ACOUSTIC FORUM, HEATHEN!!" posts.

I've played the Marshall AVT series, and I think they're overpriced for what you get. It was a nice amp, but for the price in question I felt I could get something a lot nicer.

The Fender-- do you mean the FM-212r? I have one of these, I use it as a church/practice amp. It's loud and clean and Fendery, so if that's what you're looking for, great. The distortion channel is pretty useless.

Based on the amps you listed . . . I've heard very very good things about the Roland Cube. I've never used one myself, but if you're looking for a small modeling amp . . . again, I've heard very good things.

Also Carvin has a line of amps called the "SX" series . . . these also are pretty good amps in that price range. They have a small variety of built in effects and a versitile lead channel.

I dont believe any of the amps you mentioned were tube . . . are you looking exclusively for Solid State? Harder to find a good tube amp in that price range but it is possible.
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mt_spiffy
Posted 2006-01-20 4:03 PM (#268566 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!


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And I'm in Virgina at the moment. All the other voices say they're fine, so I think you're wrong.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-01-20 4:07 PM (#268567 - in reply to #268547)
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Good. Glad to know 'everyone' is ok. ;)
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-01-20 4:17 PM (#268568 - in reply to #268547)
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Sounds like Dan has an amp for each voice. Pun intended.
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dougr
Posted 2006-01-20 5:09 PM (#268569 - in reply to #268547)
Subject: Re: electric guitar amps. need advice.!
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everyone, sorry if i stepped on some acoustic only toes. but i knew someone here at ofc had electric guitars to, after all, alot of ovations are acoustic/electric and this is probable the best site in the world to get answers on whatever question i had ever had. have a good weekend everyone.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2006-01-20 5:43 PM (#268570 - in reply to #268547)
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You might try a Fender Deluxe 90 DSP. 90 watts, solid state, lots of decent effects, including drive and overdrive, 12" speaker. Loud enough to cut through in most small club venues, certainly more than enough for practice and recording. Most are between $200 and $250 on eBay in new condition. I bought mine for $200 on eBay about a year ago.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-01-20 6:33 PM (#268571 - in reply to #268547)
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Doug, Miles, one of the originators of this site is an electric Ovation nut. I had no idea Ovation made so many until I found this site. Check out his reference section. It does a great job of discussing all the models.
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