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robbsguitar
Posted 2006-02-06 4:57 PM (#266595)
Subject: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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Hi, I'm new to Ovation, bought my first last week. I own a couple Martins and other brands and was out looking for a new guitar, at first a travel guitar , but they were all to small.. anyways went to 4 stores last week and this Celebrity spoke to me, I tried to resist but couldnt...after 1 week I really like her...CK047-FKOA... my question is does Ovation make any 12 fretters ? or affordable 12 fretters ? I saw the Josh White model which is expensive...I'm a fan of 12 fretters and have 2 Marint 12 fretters.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-02-06 5:27 PM (#266596 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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A used Folklore just sold on ebay for $331. It's a 12 fretter.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2006-02-06 5:40 PM (#266597 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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There aren't any current regular production 12-fret Ovations that I am aware of. You could possibly order one custom from the factory.

I have a 1981-vintage 1118 Glen Campbell 12-string....it's a 12-fretter.

Roger
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-02-06 5:48 PM (#266598 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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Current production 12 fret 6 strings are the Josh reissue and a single Adamas model (U681T-5) There's also the Legend 1773LX nylon string. There was a variation of the 12-fret Adamas at NAMM but it's not showing on the Adamas website yet.

1614 Folklores crop up on ebay regularly. They are essentially the "first" Josh White reissue. They're great guitars if you like wide-neck slothead 12 fretters, and can be had for very reasonable money.

You are not alone in your preference for 12 fret guitars. Many OFC members including myself are 12 fret afficionados. I custom ordered a 12-fret Ovation a few years ago because there was nothing in the regular production that really suited me at that time
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tragocaster
Posted 2006-02-06 8:38 PM (#266599 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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Just what, pray tell, is the attraction to the 12 fret over the 14 fret model? It seems it would be a serious annoyance for anyone who wants to venture into the land of the 12th fret, E position. I can't imagine what the advantages are, unless it's something to do with where the harmonics fall along the string......

Someone please educate me!
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-02-06 8:51 PM (#266600 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?



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12 fretters require the bridge is moved back towards the tail of the guitar. This puts it in a much more ideal location on the soundboard. All things being equal (they never are) a 12 fretter will sound better than a 14 fretter.
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robbsguitar
Posted 2006-02-06 11:06 PM (#266601 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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Tnx, theres a 1614 on Ebay right now i think ill watch, The Celebrity I bought sounds great...a little tweaking of the neck and a fresh set of PB's and I happy..and to answer the question on 12 fretters, Ive always found the bass response, string tension and balance better.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-02-06 11:52 PM (#266602 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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Originally posted by robbsguitar:
..and to answer the question on 12 fretters, Ive always found the bass response, string tension and balance better.
Then you GOTTA try the U681T!!!
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povation
Posted 2006-02-07 12:42 AM (#266603 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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I have two guitars,1977 Folklore 1114-4 in my gallery and 19xx Folklore 1114-4 that I just won the bid on ebay item # 7387494728 two days ago.I think my 1977, it sounds very clean and different from my other ovation acoustic guitars .....so I need some more! my pacemaker 1615-4 look like this one. I would like to recommend whoever to be the owner of the model such as.povation
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matrix
Posted 2006-02-07 6:44 AM (#266604 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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I always heard that 12 fretters have a "sweeter" sound than the 14.KG
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-02-07 2:17 PM (#266605 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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Speaking of 12 fretters, here's another Folklore on which, somebody has put nylon strings

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ovation-Acoustic-Electric-w-Nylon-Strings_W0QQi...
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-02-07 2:45 PM (#266606 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?



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Looks like they put on classical sized barrels as well. Dave

PS - I just had a great idea for an invention. A two piece plastic sleeve, each piece is 180 degrees of a tube. And each piece has a string hole through the middle of the side. You put these on the metal barrels of your steel string folklore guitar if you want to string it up with ball end nylons. The string wrapping around the 2 pieces holds them in place creating a classical sized barrel.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2006-02-07 3:35 PM (#266607 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?



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"Great starter guitar". Hrrrumph.
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povation
Posted 2006-02-07 7:48 PM (#266608 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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I do love it! Purple velvet case! Maybe my next guitar. Need further information,please.
povation
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-02-07 9:38 PM (#266609 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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BluesSailor has the high bid. I just closed the deal on the 1624. I managed to avoid ebay all day today so that I wouldn't change my mind. Maybe with the poor description this one will go cheap.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-02-08 8:22 AM (#266610 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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Originally posted by Standingovation:
I just had a great idea for an invention. A two piece plastic sleeve, each piece is 180 degrees of a tube. The string wrapping around the 2 pieces holds them in place creating a classical sized barrel.
I'll take 6!

Thanks,
Hal
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-02-08 8:32 AM (#266611 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?



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Jeff, I'm serious about this one. You could convert folklore tuners to classical tuners easily. I'm going to work on a prototype set this weekend and put nylons on my U681.
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BluesSailor
Posted 2006-02-08 8:40 AM (#266612 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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Maybe with the poor description this one will go cheap
Fingers Crossed!

Additional info has been requested. His response and how fast he responds will help determine my confidence level with this new eBay seller.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-02-08 7:48 PM (#266613 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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Originally posted by Standingovation:
I'm going to work on a prototype set this weekend and put nylons on my U681.
Please Dave, Schroeder needs no further encouragement.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-02-09 12:29 AM (#266614 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?



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Dave, that's really an interesting idea.

Let me know if it works.
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BluesSailor
Posted 2006-02-09 9:01 AM (#266615 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?


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Anyone here 'Customlegend' on eBay?
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MWoody
Posted 2006-02-09 9:21 AM (#266616 - in reply to #266595)
Subject: Re: New to Ovation, any 12 fretters ?



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He's a member and poster here.
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