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| Originally posted by alpep:
You wanted me to post a price on this internet forum. By nature of my dealer agreement I cannot do that and I explained that to you. Your post also invited some sort of dealer price bidding war in which I refused to participate.
I hope you are happy with your order and price. 1. At the time of my enquiry I did not know about the MAP (minimum advertised price), nor did I know how many 'dealers' there were on this forum. I did NOT ask for a price to be posted on the forum, and included my e-mail address, which I NEVER do on other forums. You could still have given your price anytime during our several e-mails when I was trying to clarify my position.
2. You say that I"...invited some kind of dealer price bidding war...". I simply invited all dealers on the forum to send me their best price for this guitar. Again, I didn't know how many or who the dealers were. Later, when I received no e-mail quotes and found out that you were a dealer (and probably the only dealer), I sent you an e-mail asking why no quote. I disagreed with your reasoning for no quote and tried to correct your misunderstanding of my intent, to no avail.
Even re-reading your post above, I STILL do not understand why your attitude remains the same! What could I have done differently under the circumstances that would have prevented this fiasco?
I just wanted to order from someone on this forum and get a good price. There wasn't going to be a price bidding war! I'm just a 67 yr. old fart that is finally getting my first guitar after decades of yearning, and it is an Ovation with everything I wanted - and for some stupid reason I wanted this forum to be a part of this wonderious event. I am so sorry that this part of it has resulted in this negative feeling on both sides. Believe me, it was the furthest thing from my mind when I started this exciting adventure.
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Location: Phoenix, AZ | Originally posted by stephent28:
dmkozak,
Before we lost a weeks worth of threads, weren't you looking for a shallow bowl in the $1000 range?
I posted up a pic of my Adamas 1881 that would be a terrific guitar for you although I am asking a bit more than $1000. If interested check out all the details in my OFC gallery under the "for sale" section. Several members chimed in and said it would be a great buy for you.
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by Donald1800:
Originally posted by alpep:
You wanted me to post a price on this internet forum. By nature of my dealer agreement I cannot do that and I explained that to you. Your post also invited some sort of dealer price bidding war in which I refused to participate.
I hope you are happy with your order and price. 1. At the time of my enquiry I did not know about the MAP (minimum advertised price), nor did I know how many 'dealers' there were on this forum. I did NOT ask for a price to be posted on the forum, and included my e-mail address, which I NEVER do on other forums. You could still have given your price anytime during our several e-mails when I was trying to clarify my position.
2. You say that I"...invited some kind of dealer price bidding war...". I simply invited all dealers on the forum to send me their best price for this guitar. Again, I didn't know how many or who the dealers were. Later, when I received no e-mail quotes and found out that you were a dealer (and probably the only dealer), I sent you an e-mail asking why no quote. I disagreed with your reasoning for no quote and tried to correct your misunderstanding of my intent, to no avail.
Even re-reading your post above, I STILL do not understand why your attitude remains the same! What could I have done differently under the circumstances that would have prevented this fiasco?
I just wanted to order from someone on this forum and get a good price. There wasn't going to be a price bidding war! I'm just a 67 yr. old fart that is finally getting my first guitar after decades of yearning, and it is an Ovation with everything I wanted - and for some stupid reason I wanted this forum to be a part of this wonderious event. I am so sorry that this part of it has resulted in this negative feeling on both sides. Believe me, it was the furthest thing from my mind when I started this exciting adventure.
Donald
2. I started the OFC before I became an Ovation dealer, and I KNOW there are other dealers out there and that people buy guitars from whomever they want and also realize I cannot provide the world with their guitars. (although it is a nice thought)
3. what you could have done differently is what so many people do on a daily basis which was e mail me directly for a price. I am sorry if it rubbed you the wrong way that no one responded but your invitation for post prices is just an impossibility.
I will not go into this private matter any further on this public board. I have your emails that I can post but I will not.
Again, I hope you enjoy your guitar ultimately that is what is it all about here |
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| Alpep, here is a copy of my original post in 'Sell/Trade':
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"I've waited many months for Ovation to release my ideal guitar. However, it is not offered in the 'Natural' finish as standard.
I would like ALL authorized Ovation dealers on this forum to reply to donald18@sonic.net with your best offer to 'Special Order' the C2079LX Deep Contour Custom Legend LX in 'Natural' finish AND #9158-0 Hard Shell Case, and drop shipped factory direct to me. Payment by PayPal is preferred for card security.
Thank you in advance for all help offered. Donald"
This is the 'offending post' which STILL garners so much negative feelings from you. And, I STILL don't understand why you reacted the way you did, nor why I could not clarify my position sufficient to allow not only mutual respect, but also allow the order I wanted.
In view of the continuing feelings, I would not be suprised to see this post purged.
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| To al's credit he doesn't purge much. Insulting him won't get it done. |
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Location: closely held secret | I was just thinking that if I was trying to get some dealers to bid their price down, that's how I would start... |
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| If this perspective is fairly universal, then I stand corrected. I apologize for fostering the bad feelings resulting. It trully was not my intention to either create the impression of "price bidding war" or bad feelings, just trying to advertise to the unknown people selling Ovations that I wanted to place a special order.
This happened a long time ago and this post subject and replies stirred up my frustration and hurt caused by this incident, and I wanted to clear the air. The result is different than I expected.
I really do love this forum, visiting several times a week. I do hope that my participation has not been hampered by this. If so, e-mail or PM me.
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Location: SoCal | Donald,
Don't sweat it. Can't believe you only visit here a few times per week. That's what I'm upset about. You should be here more often. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Did I miss something? I was actually playing my guitar!!!
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Email me and I'll send some pictures of a C2078LX with a Super-natural top! It will drive all the bad feelings away! |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by Donald1800:
This happened a long time ago and this post subject and replies stirred up my frustration and hurt caused by this incident, and I wanted to clear the air. The result is different than I expected.
I really do love this forum, visiting several times a week. I do hope that my participation has not been hampered by this. If so, e-mail or PM me.
Donald then i invite you to do the same, e mail me or PM me, instead of airing this in a public forum. your beef is with me NOT with the Ovation Fan Club. |
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Location: NJ | After rereading the original post and assuming it is original and not edited, I withdraw my accusation of Donald wanting prices to be posted on the forum but I still maintain, that I did not want to get involved in a "bidding war". |
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